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Ep 188 S7 Deseret Peak HS Seminary Council 'Remembering the Sheep' William K. Jackson

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Kate quotes, 'I tried to find my brother and then I found all three.'

The episode opens with a clear frame around Heavenly Father’s plan, the Savior’s atonement, and why what people do in this life matters. Dr. Kirk Burbage welcomes listeners to Thinking Celestial and revisits Elder William K. Jackson’s Remembering the Sheep. He is joined in the shadow of the Deseret Peak, near the Deseret Peak Temple, by the Deseret Peak High School Seminary Council. The first stretch is relaxed, with introductions and a few personal details shared around the room. From there, the conversation settles into what it means to be real with other people. The students and host talk about checking in, then following up later instead of stopping at empty concern. Again and again, they come back to pride, and to the need to put yourself on the shelf. One student points out that once you let go of yourself, you can care more honestly about what someone else is going through. Dr. Burbage builds on that with a reminder that most people are worrying far less about your clothes, hair, or shoes than you think. He gives the group practical encouragement about how discipleship changes the way you see other people. The discussion also turns to invitation, which the group treats as simple rather than forced or slick. A prompt about a math class becomes a small example of how to check in, ask again, and keep the door open. Burbage then connects the students’ comments to a recent talk by President Dallin H. Oaks at BYU’s basketball stadium. He notes that Oaks spent a large share of that address on humility and pride. That connection helps the room link everyday self-consciousness with a larger spiritual lesson. The tone stays warm and informal, even when the subject gets serious. Humor still slips through, but it never gets in the way of the point. The closing turns from personal habits back to doctrine, stressing that God’s work in salvation and exaltation is personal. The final emphasis is on being instruments in that work and trusting that miracles can come to real people. The whole conversation lands as a plainspoken reminder to notice others, drop self-importance, and follow through on care.

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A faith conversation that turns humility into practical habits.

This episode treats Elder William K. Jackson's Remembering the Sheep as a plainspoken lesson in noticing people, setting pride aside, and living discipleship in ordinary life.

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