Thinking Celestial - A ”Follow The Prophet” Series Podcast · SLCC Institute of Religion

Ep 162 S6 Blake Dalton "And Now I See" Jeffrey R. Holland

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How easy it is to dismiss redemption when the ingredients seem "embarrassingly plain."

The hosts begin by calling the talk tender and lingering. They treat Elder Jeffrey R. Holland's appearance and tone as part of the meaning, not just background. A sense of age, loss, and finished work hangs over their reading. That feeling leads them into the question of why the talk lands so strongly. They frame the Book of Mormon as the instrument Holland points to for healing. The conversation keeps stressing that he does not present that witness as theoretical. Instead, he sounds like someone speaking from lived experience. The blind man from scripture becomes the clearest comparison. The hosts return again and again to the mismatch between the simple method and the miraculous result. They linger on the idea that something can look implausible and still be true. At one point, a host imagines how astonishing it would be to watch a blind man suddenly see. That moves the discussion from doctrine into ordinary human reaction. The episode also makes room for the irritation people feel when a miracle's means are questioned. Holland's line about the Book of Mormon being hurled at him becomes a way to talk about criticism without losing testimony. The hosts joke about the word 'spit,' then keep circling back to the seriousness underneath it. That small bit of humor keeps the tone loose instead of stiff. The conversation later folds into a quieter, more personal register. By the end, the hosts are less interested in proving a point than in bearing witness. The close leans devotional, with scripture, song, and testimony all pointing in the same direction. What remains is a simple claim: the Savior's power makes the Father's plan possible, and Holland's talk is one more witness of that.

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A tender, plainspoken conversation about healing, testimony, and why Elder Holland's witness lands so strongly.

Thinking Celestial keeps its focus on Elder Jeffrey R. Holland's "And Now I See," and the strongest material comes from the way the hosts connect healing, testimony, and the Savior's atonement without overcomplicating it.

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A tender Elder Jeffrey R. Holland discussion when you want a quiet, sincere faith talk.

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