The Untold Story with Martha MacCallum

New Evidence In The Nancy Guthrie Investigation

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A security expert points out the suspect's mismatched holster and chemical gloves as signs he may not be mentally there.
Martha MacCallum hosts an episode focused on the missing person case of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie from Tucson, Arizona. She introduces guest Wayne Black, a Miami-based security consultant with experience in kidnapping investigations and former work for Donald Rumsfeld. Black analyzes FBI-released footage showing a suspect on Guthrie's porch, pointing out the man's unusual holster configuration with a revolver holster holding a semi-automatic pistol and chemical gloves. He suggests the suspect may not be mentally stable. Black discusses the ransom note demanding U.S. dollars, which he believes is likely from a foreign scammer separate from the porch suspect. He speculates the crime could be a targeted home invasion or robbery that went awry, noting the suspect's leisurely behavior and backpack. Black compares this case to historical kidnappings like Patty Hearst and John Paul Getty III, finding it dissimilar. He advises Guthrie's family to maintain hope, schedule regular meetings with law enforcement, and seek counseling. Black also offers general safety tips, warning against normalcy bias and emphasizing trusting instincts and using alarm systems. The episode concludes with MacCallum summarizing the discussion and encouraging listeners to follow breaking developments on Fox News.

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A focused case discussion that weighs timing, evidence, and kidnapping possibilities.

Martha McCallum frames the episode around the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie from Tucson, Arizona, and brings back Wayne Black, a Miami-based security consultant and former law enforcement detective, to consider whether the facts point to kidnapping.

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You get a hard look at a missing-person case framed by a 41-minute window.

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