The State of Energy · Rocky Mountain Propane Association

Turkey, Propane, and Policy: A Thanksgiving Energy Reality Check

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New York agreed to suspend the gas ban until appellate litigation ends, and the January 1 deadline is on hold.

1. The State of Energy opens with Thanksgiving and propane, using turkey frying to frame the episode’s energy policy talk. 2. Rand DeWitt hosts with Tom Clark, Executive Director of the Rocky Mountain Propane Association, who brings propane policy and incentive details. 3. The episode asks whether propane can save money, improve safety, and resist electric mandates during a Thanksgiving week check-in. 4. Clark recommends a propane-powered turkey air fryer instead of deep-frying a bird in a pot of peanut oil. 5. The hosts warn that dropping a turkey into too much oil can overflow the pot and catch fire. 6. The conversation shifts to thestateofenergy.com, where listeners can find “where to buy” links, past shows, and rebate information. 7. A residential stove rebate of $200 is offered for switching from an electric stove to a propane stove. 8. Clark says propane ovens heat faster than electric ones and cost less to run. 9. The episode also lists farm and agricultural incentives, including up to $5,000 for propane engines and heating systems. 10. Builders can get a $1,000 incentive per home for gas or propane powered heat, cooking, or fireplaces. 11. The hosts describe a 30 percent federal tax credit for alternative fuel infrastructure through the end of the year. 12. They say that credit can reach $100,000 for propane refueling infrastructure used by fleets. 13. Clark uses a plumber with ten gasoline vans as an example of why centralized propane refueling can save time and money. 14. The policy discussion turns to New York, where a coalition led by the National Propane Gas Association, the New York Propane Gas Association, and Mulhern Gas of Hudson reached a settlement. 15. That settlement suspends the gas ban while appellate litigation continues, and the All Electric Buildings Act is on hold for now. 16. Colorado becomes the next example, with a water-heater standard passed in 2023 that the hosts say does not exist. 17. Clark argues that Xcel Energy’s new rate structure includes a 40 percent winter on-peak increase and will hit consumers already facing higher electricity costs. 18. The hosts contrast electricity prices rising from about 7 cents per kilowatt hour in 2001 to 17.5 cents in 2025 with propane’s steadier pricing. 19. The tone is loose, conversational, and full of back-and-forth jokes, with practical policy arguments threaded through the banter. 20. Listeners who follow state energy policy, propane rebates, or home-fuel costs will get the most from this episode.

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