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Pat Murphy Says Beating the Cubs was Emotionally Draining + Blue Jays-Dodgers World Series Preview

October 21, 2025·54 min·3 clips

The Mariners became the only one of the 30 current teams never to reach the World Series.

1. The Show: A NY Post baseball podcast with Joel Sherman & Jon Heyman centers this episode on Pat Murphy’s Brewers, the Blue Jays’ Game 7 win, and a Blue Jays-Dodgers World Series preview. 2. Joel Sherman and Jon Heyman host the baseball discussion, and Pat Murphy joins as the Brewers’ manager after a season that ended with the best record in the majors. 3. The episode asks whether Toronto can threaten a Dodgers team described as a dynasty and what Milwaukee’s season says about small-market success. 4. George Springer’s three-run homer in Game 7 is the immediate frame for the Blue Jays’ advance, and Heyman notes Springer now has 23 postseason homers. 5. The hosts emphasize that Toronto won the last two games in Toronto and is headed to its first World Series since winning back-to-back titles in 1992-93. 6. Seattle’s loss is discussed through the lens of franchise history, with names like Ichiro, Edgar, Griffey, A-Rod, and “The Big Unit” used to underline the drought. 7. Joel Sherman says the Dodgers’ roster is so loaded that the Blue Jays will be “staggering underdogs” even though baseball allows upsets. 8. Jon Heyman highlights Shohei Ohtani, Mookie Betts, and Freddie Freeman as the core of Los Angeles’ advantage. 9. Murphy says Milwaukee’s year should be viewed as a success because the Brewers held off the division and beat the Cubs, even if the Dodgers swept them. 10. Murphy says the Brewers were dealing with “the budget and the injuries,” which shaped the challenge of building a contender. 11. Murphy says beating the Cubs was “emotionally draining,” and he describes the next-day practice and game as difficult after that series. 12. Murphy says the Brewers put the ball in play and scored runs all year, but they did not do it in the four games against the Dodgers. 13. Murphy says the Dodgers’ starting pitching was the main separator, naming Yamamoto, Ohtani, Glasnow, and Snell as the hard part of the matchup. 14. Murphy says any team can lose in a seven-game series, but the Dodgers’ talent level makes them the clear favorite. 15. Murphy argues that relievers are being asked to do too much in October, and the discussion returns to Bazardo versus Springer as an example. 16. Murphy says team building for a small-market club has to come from within, because chasing an expensive starter such as Sonny Gray is unrealistic. 17. The conversation is conversational and analytical, with Heyman and Sherman pressing Murphy on roster construction, bullpen usage, and the Brewers’ future. 18. Murphy answers directly and self-effacingly, mixing humor with pointed baseball opinions about power, leverage, and decision-making. 19. Fans of MLB roster building, manager strategy, and NL Central baseball will get the most from this episode. 20. Listeners wanting celebrity gossip or a narrative recap of a single game may skip it.

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