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Nolan McLean reminds Ron Darling of a former teammate + Cal Raleigh is the AL MVP over Aaron Judge

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Cal Raleigh is the AL MVP leader because he is a catcher with 46 homers and the RBI lead.

Joel Sherman and John Hale welcome Ron Darling and mark his 65th birthday. The tone stays warm, but the baseball conversation turns serious fast. Darling returns to the idea that a starter has to give you length, and he points to his own 1986 season as proof that going deep into games still mattered. That idea carries into the present as the hosts dig into the Mets' current stretch. They talk about a staff that had strong results for part of the year but is now having trouble getting six innings from starters. Darling does not treat it like a dramatic surprise. He frames it as a reminder that the staff may not have been quite as good as it looked when the numbers were better. The show then turns to Nolan McClain and stays focused on his pitching. From there, the conversation shifts to the AL MVP race. Cal Raleigh gets a real case built for him, and Aaron Judge is treated like the standard he always is. The hosts do not dodge the comparison. They work through it like a live argument rather than a settled answer. They also bring the Yankees back into view and ask where the team stands right now. The back half of the show stays rooted in practical baseball judgment. Hit and error closes things out with a lighter touch. A few New York side jokes and producer references keep the mood loose. The show ends where it began, with veteran baseball voices trying to sort out what is real, what is changing, and what should matter next.

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A Mets-and-MVP baseball discussion that uses Ron Darling's perspective to frame the season.

The episode centers on the Mets' pitching stretch, Nolan McLean, and the AL MVP debate between Cal Raleigh and Aaron Judge. Ron Darling gives the conversation a grounded edge by linking it to workload, game memory, and what it takes to work deep into games, including his own…

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Cal Raleigh vs. Aaron Judge, plus Ron Darling on what Mets pitching is really missing.

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