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Ben Shapiro Is Waging Battle Inside the MAGA Movement

February 9, 2026·49 min·4 clips
Ben Shapiro accuses Tucker Carlson of glazing a Hitler apologist on his show, sparking a feud inside MAGA.
David Remnick interviews Ben Shapiro about internal conflicts within the MAGA movement, focusing on anti-Semitism, media feuds, and Shapiro's critiques of figures like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Shapiro discusses his conservative principles, Trump's ethics, and the future of the Republican Party, highlighting tensions between traditional conservatism and populist conspiratorial elements.

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A careful look at the conservative movement's internal fracture lines.

Ben Shapiro uses Turning Point USA's AmericaFest to make a larger point about the conservative movement: the real pressure is coming less from the left than from its own appetite for conspiracy and mistrust.

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If you want a look at the fault lines on the right, this is the conversation to hear.

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