The Knowing Podcast | Emotional Intelligence, Business Growth, Personal Development · Christene Marie | Entrepreneurship, Mindfulness, Mental Health

S2 Ep9 - The Beliefs You Carry Are Not Always Yours: Self-Awareness & Healing

·1 hr 12 min·4 clips

Most people are making decisions based on what they think other people think.

1. The Knowing Podcast episode centers on self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and business growth through behavioral analysis and healing language. 2. Christine Marie hosts Bill of Nathan, who presents himself as an entrepreneur and executive-coaching leader connected to Execucom and Predictive Index. 3. The episode asks what happens when founders stop trying to change everything themselves and start matching people to their actual strengths. 4. Bill of Nathan says he moved from being a former commercial real estate broker to doing workshops and speaking before building a company. 5. He uses an Etsy speaker kit that cost $17 to show how quickly a business problem can be solved by the right vendor. 6. He contrasts that with spending time in Canva or Photoshop, which he says he is not built to do well. 7. Christine Marie and Bill of Nathan discuss the difference between a founder CEO and a hired CEO. 8. Bill says a founder CEO lives with fear about making payroll, while a hired CEO runs an already functioning machine. 9. He argues that behavioral analysis helps teams make work more predictable. 10. He repeats the warning, “Don’t hire a fish to climb a tree,” to show the cost of forcing the wrong fit. 11. He says creativity happens inside confines, not in a void. 12. He gives the example that asking 100 people to draw “a picture” produces chaos, while asking for “a sunset” creates usable variety. 13. The conversation turns to disengagement and “quietly quit,” which Bill links to poor leadership fit and missed communication. 14. He says people often need upskilling and a visible path to stay engaged. 15. He argues that many happy-hour culture efforts do not drive business strategy, but targeted learning opportunities can. 16. Bill says the assessment asks how you see yourself and how you believe others see you, and he explains that people often act on what they think others think. 17. The tone is conversational, instructional, and reflective, with Christine often probing for practical examples and Bill answering with frameworks. 18. The format stays interview-based and moves between personal story, business examples, and emotional-intelligence language. 19. Best for founders, team leaders, and coaching-minded managers. 20. Less useful for listeners wanting a story-driven or entertainment-first episode.

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Acceptance, teamwork, hiring, and self-knowledge are folded into a business conversation that stays reflective without drifting far from the work.

Christine Marie keeps the conversation anchored in a plain but useful tension: whether growth comes from changing the world around you or from changing the story you carry into it.

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