The EnvisionAir Podcast | Personal Wellness, Self Development and Growth Mindset · Nicole Ng Yuen

🍎 HEALTH: My Journey Finding My Spirituality | Clarke Dodd, Management Consultant

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Clark says he ended up “curled up in a fetal position” as colors became “a kaleidoscope.”

1. The EnvisionAir Podcast episode centers on Clark Dodd’s journey from management consulting into spirituality and self-discovery. 2. Host Nicole introduces Clark Dodd as a high-flying management consultant with nearly a decade of experience at more than 24 organizations, including HSBC, Goldman Sachs, and PwC. 3. The episode asks what happened when a corporate operator started taking spirituality, meditation, and therapy seriously. 4. Clark says spirituality became meaningful only in the last two to three years, after he had spent most of his life not being religious. 5. He describes ayahuasca as “a very deep and profound spiritual experience” rather than a psychedelic high. 6. Clark says a surfing trip, a shop in Cusco, and a card with a phone number led him to a retreat in Peru before a 10 a.m. flight the next day. 7. He recalls being driven into the forest by a man who did not speak English, losing signal, and texting a friend “if I don’t make it, I love you.” 8. Clark says the ceremony took about four hours and began with a small green drink from a shaman and his assistant in a room with a yoga mat and a puma skull. 9. He describes fetal-position crying, kaleidoscope-like colors, and a feeling that an internal “entity” was guiding him through the experience. 10. Clark says the main lesson was to stop focusing on what might happen in the future and stay with the present moment. 11. He says he did not throw up, even though that was his biggest fear for the first hour and a half. 12. Clark says the experience made him more open-minded about “guides or spirits or angels,” which he would have dismissed five years earlier. 13. He says 2022 became one of the craziest years of his life, with travel to 16 places and a major shipping-logistics project that went to the board. 14. He describes reaching Mumbai exhausted, leading five days of training, and feeling sad that he had not lived according to the guidance he felt from ayahuasca. 15. That mismatch pushed him toward therapy after years of seeing himself as “a machine.” 16. Clark says his parents divorced when he was 6, the split was not happy, and that history made him fear divorce in his own dating life. 17. He says he had no hobbies for most of his consulting years beyond work, friends, and the gym, and later struggled to handle free time after leaving consulting. 18. The conversation is informal and confessional, with Nicole sharing her own therapy and relationship history while Clark gives detailed personal examples. 19. People interested in spirituality, therapy, burnout, and consulting careers would likely get the most from this episode. 20. People looking for a purely business-focused consulting interview may skip it.

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