EI Talks... Kissinger's century with Thomas A. Schwartz

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Thomas Schwartz explains why his biography of Henry Kissinger focuses solely on his public political life, not his private affairs.

The episode features an interview with historian Thomas Schwartz about his political biography of Henry Kissinger. Schwartz explains the book's focus on Kissinger's public life and political actions, not his private affairs. He describes Kissinger as one of America's greatest self-promoters, skilled at using television and print media to shape his image. Kissinger's approval ratings reached 80% in the 1970s, making him one of the most admired Americans. His German accent and Jewish identity initially led the Nixon administration to limit his media exposure, fearing he wouldn't 'play in Peoria'. However, he eventually became a celebrated figure, with his immigrant story seen as a Horatio Alger-type narrative. Schwartz discusses Kissinger's intellectual fascination with German history and figures like Metternich. The conversation explores Kissinger's relationship with Richard Nixon, which Schwartz describes as a partnership where Kissinger manipulated Nixon but also appreciated his will to power. During Watergate, Kissinger accumulated unprecedented authority, acting as 'almost the president for foreign policy'. After leaving office, Kissinger desperately wanted to return to power but was blocked by subsequent presidents. His opening to China remained his proudest achievement, and he maintained business dealings there into his old age. Schwartz addresses controversies like Kissinger's role in Chile and Vietnam, noting his defensive responses. A year after Kissinger's death, Schwartz believes it's too early for a balanced assessment, as more archives will open and passions from the Vietnam War era still influence perceptions.

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A measured look at Kissinger's political power and the reputation that outlived it.

Henry Kissinger's public legacy is framed through Thomas A. Schwartz's account of him as a political figure, not just a foreign policy strategist.

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Press play when you want Kissinger's reputation and legacy examined beyond the familiar genius story.

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