The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Inside the war on Trump’s new MAGA (with Marjorie Taylor Greene)

·43 min·4 clips
Trump told Greene not to release Epstein files because 'his friends would get hurt,' shocking her with his priorities.
The episode features an interview with former Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, hosted by Dasha Burns. Greene explains her break with President Trump, starting with his military action in Iran, which she labels as 'evil and madness.' She details a phone call where Trump said releasing Epstein files would hurt his friends, leading to her resignation. Greene argues the war was unnecessary and driven by pro-Israel interests, criticizing U.S. funding for Israel. She discusses the generational split in politics, noting younger voters oppose foreign wars. Greene predicts Republicans will lose the House and potentially Senate in midterms, citing a special election in her district where Republican margins dropped. She criticizes House Speaker Mike Johnson for lacking a health care plan. Greene shares her evolution in communication style, from naive newcomer to more measured critic. She considers leaving the Republican Party, leaning independent, and explores forming a coalition with Democrats like Ro Khanna. The conversation covers topics including accountability for Epstein, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and Vice President J.D. Vance's role in ceasefire negotiations. Greene reflects on her political future, ruling out a run but maintaining a public voice. The episode highlights fractures within the MAGA movement and broader political realignments.

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Greene's break with Trump turns MAGA promises about transparency and war into a personal test of loyalty.

Marjorie Taylor Greene's break with Donald Trump lands here as an argument over what MAGA was supposed to deliver, not just who gets to claim it.

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You can hear a MAGA loyalist hit a line in the sand over Epstein files and Iran.

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