The British History Podcast · Jamie Jeffers

Bonus Episode: The Authoritarians

·1 hr 26 min·5 clips

Bob Altemeyer found that nonviolent resistance triggered a "Gandhi trap" in authoritarian followers.

Two and a half years ago, Z came into the studio for a shop talk about a book written by Bob Altemeier in 2006, and members have been asking ever since for a public release. The show puts it on the main feed instead of selling it separately, because that would feel strange. From there it moves into moral righteous aggression and the psychological tools used to run people through pressure tests, including game-theory setups, prisoner's-dilemma style tests, NATO simulations, and Cold War simulations. Some of the examples sound like a bad idea until the results are in front of you. The show keeps one eye on the research and one eye on the absurdity of asking ordinary people to behave well while pretending nuclear buttons are on the table. It also keeps returning to the limits of the setup: these scenarios can show something useful, but they are still artificial, and that flattens the mess that makes real conflict harder to model. That caution matters because the conversation wants to be precise about what can be claimed and what still needs a little side-eye. One of the more striking details is the so-called Gandhi trap. Nonviolent resistance lowers aggression in these controlled tests, and the show treats that finding as interesting rather than miraculous. At the same time, it does not pretend that lab behavior automatically maps onto every real-world confrontation. People can act differently when a scenario is isolated, artificial, and built to force a choice. Real life has more noise, more history, and more reasons for everyone in the room to get uglier. The bonus format gives the show room to sit with that difference without pretending it has solved anything. It also keeps the tone loose enough for practical humor and blunt skepticism to sit beside the research. The episode closes by thanking the members who pushed for the release and by noting that the next regular episode will arrive later today or tomorrow. That ending keeps the whole thing feeling like a gift of a detour that still points forward.

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A focused look at simulations, group pressure, and the limits of controlled tests.

The episode plays like a focused shop talk, built around a long-requested public release and a 2006 book by Bob Altemeier. From there it moves through simulations, group pressure, and moral aggression in controlled settings, which gives the conversation a steady arc rather than…

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