One More Cocoa

February 16, 2026·40 min·3 clips

Mati describes listening to the quote 'I'm sorry, did you just ask me if our walls can talk?' during pandemic lockdown and laughing so hard their housemate ran in from another room to check whether they had lost their mind.

1. One More Cocoa is a companion discussion podcast for The Amelia Project, and this episode — 'To Chair or Not to Chair' — covers The Amelia Project Episode 1, 'Zale Indigo Ravenheart.' 2. The show is hosted by Mati Parzival, described as a former Amelia superfan who faked their death and came back as an intern, faked it again and became a production assistant and Tumblr voice, and is now a podcaster in their 'newest reincarnation.' 3. Today's guest is Pigeon, identified as a 'truly magnificent artist' and close friend of Mati's for almost six years. 4. The episode's central text is The Amelia Project Episode 1, in which a client named Zale Indigo Ravenheart — a cult leader who publicly promised to launch himself to the planet Antithon — comes to the Amelia Project fixer to have his fake death arranged. 5. The framing joke is about a chair: the interviewer tells Zale to 'grab a chair,' Zale says 'there is no chair,' and the interviewer replies 'of course there is' — setting up a long back-and-forth about faith and perception. 6. The hosts note that the interviewer's voice has changed significantly since Episode 1: Pigeon observes 'he just grew into this role so, so much over the past few years, and you can really hear it.' 7. The cannon physics calculation from the episode is played back: the interviewer determines that Zale (126 lbs, 5ft 8.11in) will exit the barrel at 66 miles per hour, reach an altitude of 23 meters, cover 59.05 meters, clear Blackburn Woods, and land in Weyo Reservoir with a dinghy and whistle standing by. 8. Mati and Pigeon agree that the only unrealistic element in the episode is the interviewer typing with all ten fingers, with Pigeon suggesting his assistant Alvina had just dragged him through a technology workshop. 9. On re-listening, Mati and Pigeon catch a detail: the interviewer says 'once our surgeons are done with you' — definitively plural — raising questions about what surgical capacity the Amelia Project has and connecting to speculation about Kozlowski's experiments. 10. From a script Mati compiled into a transcript, they share that Zale Indigo Ravenheart, after his fake death, was given a castle in Macedonia and immediately started a second cult — Mati comments: 'Zale, you couldn't go like five minutes without another cult.' 11. The hosts debate whether script-sourced details are canon: Mati's position is 'it is canon because I do what I want and also it felt very fitting.' 12. The hosts discuss early-fandom theories about the interviewer's age — he mentions Søren Kierkegaard as 'an old friend' in Episode 1 — and note that in the early days (around 2020) only about five people were in the fandom, with two of them calling the interviewer 'Cornelius.' 13. Mati flags that in the case files, Kozlowski's name appears even in Episode 1 — earlier than most listeners would expect — and that the files provide additional context about how the fake disappearance was executed, including an incident where 'the interviewer pissed on Zale' while hiding in a bush. 14. The hosts introduce a 'cocoa cups' rating system for fake deaths on a scale of zero to ten; Pigeon initially rates Zale's cannon-launch 8/10 before downgrading given the absence of a replacement corpse; Mati gives it a 4/10 mostly as bonus points for the interviewer's computer bravery, the physics, and the walls quote. 15. Mati recounts that the quote 'I'm sorry, did you just ask me if our walls can talk?' became their favorite Amelia Project line after making them scream with laughter during pandemic lockdown in 2020, prompting their housemate to run in from another room. 16. The hosts discuss the episode's structure as a companion podcast being played in The Amelia Project's own feed, with a note that the full One More Cocoa podcast has its own separate feed. 17. A brief mention is made of the Amelia Project Live Theatre Ship event, a multi-camera filmed live show available on Patreon, with a new show 'Laplace's Demon' being performed in August where audience votes determine which story paths the characters take. 18. The tone is casual, fan-to-fan, highly referential of Amelia Project lore, and assumes familiarity with the source material while remaining welcoming to newcomers through the re-listen framing. 19. Listeners who enjoy fan-discussion companion podcasts about audio dramas, particularly those with deep lore and a warm community dynamic, will find this episode welcoming and funny. 20. Listeners who have not heard The Amelia Project or who prefer plot-driven episodes over fan discussion will find the format slow and heavily reliant on prior knowledge.

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A fan-led Amelia companion where email addresses, computer lessons, and one suspicious champagne bottle become comic evidence.

One More Coco turns Amelia Project lore into something like a small administrative emergency, with Mati Patsival steering a fan-led companion chat that treats old incidents, email addresses, computer lessons, and Alvina's patience as comic business.

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For Amelia listeners who like companion-show chatter with technology-workshop jokes, stress-ball sympathy for Alvina, and one suspicious champagne bottle.

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