Feb 16, 2026: Why Infrastructure is the Real Winner in the Age of AI with John Rotonti

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Zoom was priced to grow at over 100% annually for five years, an insane expectation.

The episode begins with Simon Erickson introducing the show's focus on software stocks, the SaaSpocalypse, and industrial opportunities. John Rotonti joins, and they briefly discuss Mardi Gras in New Orleans. Rotonti explains his long-standing skepticism of SaaS companies, citing low barriers to entry, lack of moats, and egregious stock-based compensation. He notes that at The Motley Fool, he never covered or invested in a SaaS company in his model portfolio. They examine past valuations, using Zoom as an example of extreme pricing expecting unsustainable growth. The discussion turns to Constellation Software, with Rotonti sharing a personal story of pitching it to Mark Leonard and praising its acquisition strategy. Erickson then asks about Rotonti's focus on industrials and manufacturing. Rotonti presents data suggesting the U.S. industrial recession may be troughing, citing the ISM PMI index and manufacturing employment. He highlights AI infrastructure as a driver, referencing NVIDIA's Jensen Huang's estimates of $3-4 trillion in AI factory build-out through 2030. Companies like Trane Technologies, Amphenol, and TE Connectivity are mentioned as beneficiaries. Rotonti details challenges like power shortages, labor deficits in electrical engineering, and the need for liquid cooling in data centers. Audience questions address risks to AI infrastructure from application failures and national debt. The episode concludes with plans for future discussions on chip stocks.

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