Steven Bassett: Disclosure Timeline, UAP Politics & The Age of Disclosure Documentary

December 3, 2025·1 hr 38 min·5 clips

Stephen Bassett says disclosure is so close he can taste it, and it could happen tomorrow.

This episode features host Andy McGrillen interviewing veteran UFO disclosure advocate Stephen Bassett about the political landscape surrounding UAPs. Bassett, the Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, analyzes the recent documentary "The Age of Disclosure" and its potential impact. He argues the film is a strategic breakthrough aimed at media figures and hesitant politicians rather than the existing UFO community. Bassett asserts the documentary assembles an unprecedented group of credible figures, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and sitting members of Congress like Marco Rubio. He highlights the film's promotional appearances on major platforms like Bill Maher's Netflix show and Joe Rogan's podcast, which reach millions. A key moment discussed is Dan Fravor's claim on Rogan's show that the UAP issue is actively on the U.S. President's desk. Bassett believes the necessary political "platform" for presidential disclosure has been built over the last seven years through legislation, media coverage, and congressional hearings. He contends that only a formal announcement from a head of state, likely the U.S. President, will constitute true disclosure and shift public consciousness globally. Bassett dismisses the potential failure of the UAP Disclosure Act as inconsequential, stating all required structures are already in place. He references a $1,000 bet between Avi Loeb and skeptic Michael Shermer on scientific acknowledgment of non-human intelligence by 2030. The conversation also covers Christopher Mellon's recent allegations that the U.S. Air Force is withholding UAP data from Congress. Bassett claims the documentary's true purpose is to empower media editors and encourage new congressional voices to publicly engage with the issue. He suggests the film could qualify for an Oscar nomination based on its subject's importance, not its cinematic style. Bassett posits that only a major global war could now derail the imminent disclosure process. He frames a presidential disclosure announcement as a legacy-defining act that would guarantee a Nobel Prize. The tone is a fast-paced, passionate monologue from Bassett, with the host interjecting with specific questions and counterpoints. Listeners deeply interested in the political strategy and insider perspective of the UFO disclosure movement will find this episode compelling. Those seeking discussions on specific UFO sightings, evidence, or scientific analysis may find it too focused on Washington processes.

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A direct disclosure briefing that keeps the Air Force question and the congressional pressure in view.

Steven Bassett is the guest, and Andy keeps the focus on Christopher Mellon, the Air Force, and the gaps in reporting that keep the inquiry stuck in familiar places.

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You want the disclosure fight mapped through the Air Force and Congress, not more UFO folklore.

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