Tales of a Red Clay Rambler: A pottery and ceramic art podcast · Ben Carter

Erin Lambers on setting up a business for the long haul

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Erin Lambers explains why she risked buying a ceramic supply store at 28 to save a local resource she depended on.

Education comes before profit here. Erin Lambers explains that the workshop side of the business is not mainly a way to make money. Its worth is in education, community, and the way it changed her own life. Dayton is not a side note. She wants the asset to stay in the Dayton area because it might keep changing other people's lives, not only hers. The host knows the setup up close. He remembers teaching with her and getting paid more than he had asked, which gives him room to ask a blunt question about wages, profit, and responsibility. Her answer is plain. She wants to live, survive, go to NCECA, and buy a couple of nice pots every once in a while. That scale comes from her parents' teaching: a person does not need more than what is properly theirs. The workshop model turns into an ethical choice. Artists' ideas and teaching are not raw material for someone else's profit, so the business has to take care of the people carrying that knowledge. Longevity shapes the math. She hopes the business will still be there in 50 years because artists and customers remember how they were treated. Employees count in that too. Paying them and keeping them matters more to her than taking a month away somewhere extravagant. The host's question gives the conversation its bite. He is asking how a working ceramics business chooses care when easier money is sitting right there. The answer does not come wrapped in business-school polish. It sounds more like a studio economy built around education, fair pay, reputation, and community trust over time. MonkeyStuff, the Rosenfield Collection, and Snow Farm frame the episode, but the main thread is a craft business asking what it owes to makers.

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