283. Stalking and Survival with Dr. Natalie Jones

·1 hr 12 min·5 clips

Dr. Natalie Jones reveals how the Humane Society's advocacy for animal rights led to domestic violence protections.

The episode begins with hosts Jaimie Beebe and Jake Deptula introducing Dr. Natalie Jones, a licensed professional clinical counselor specializing in domestic violence, sexual assault, and stalking cases. Dr. Jones shares her background, starting from childhood exposure to counseling during her parents' divorce, volunteer work with the Humane Society, and her career path through forensic psychology in Chicago and California prisons. She recounts her first stalking case during an internship at an Employee Assistance Program firm. Dr. Jones defines stalking as non-consensual monitoring, surveillance, and obsession, often rooted in reality detachment. She explains key differences between male and female stalkers: men tend to act alone from isolation, while women often operate in communal, cunning groups. The conversation covers the role of male ego, severe mental illness like in PC-2602 cases, and societal factors such as social media and AI exacerbating stalking. Dr. Jones identifies early red flags like excessive admiration and entitlement to knowledge. She advises victims on safety measures, including firearm training, restraining orders, and shelter relocation. The discussion delves into cyberstalking, recommending police cyber units and FBI reports. Dr. Jones links stalking to narcissistic behavior, emphasizing lack of empathy and entitlement. She describes the psychological impacts on victims, such as fear, frustration, and altered brain DNA. The episode addresses trauma bonds, law enforcement challenges due to resource prioritization, and high-risk scenarios like online dating catfishing. Dr. Jones concludes with a message for listeners to take stalking seriously, set firm boundaries, and seek specialized help.

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Practical stalking guidance, with technical clinical detail that adds real value.

Strictly Stalking centers Dr. Natalie Jones, a licensed professional clinical counselor with over 16 years of experience, in a conversation about stalking, survivor stories, and the point where concern has to become action.

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A practical stalking safety talk with Dr. Natalie Jones, a licensed professional clinical counselor with 16+ years of experience.

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