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Ep. 81: Vitalik Buterin on the Crypto-Longevity Nexus, Network States & Pop-Up Cities

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Aubrey de Grey's "mouse prize" idea could create the attention loop longevity still lacks.

1. Stranded Technologies Podcast Ep. 81 focuses on Vitalik Buterin, Ethereum, longevity, and pop-up cities. 2. The hosts speak with Vitalik Buterin, founder of Ethereum, because his work on crypto and his interest in longevity connect to Vitalia and Zuzalu. 3. The episode asks whether crypto-style networks, city experiments, and frontier biology can accelerate longevity science. 4. Vitalik says he read Aubrey de Grey's book "Ending Aging" at age 13 and found it immediately attractive. 5. He says he wants to live a very long time because he "likes being alive" and there is "so much fun stuff in life." 6. The conversation links that outlook to crypto, where open-minded people often notice technologies that were not possible a decade earlier. 7. Vitalik explains that his longevity work is mostly social infrastructure, funding support, open science, and coordination. 8. He says Zuzalu was designed as an environment where people do technology rather than merely talk about it. 9. He gives Zupass, zero-knowledge identity, zero-knowledge polling, cold plunges, walks, runs, and measurement experiments as examples. 10. He describes a split between personal longevity, learning about the field, and helping fund or organize projects. 11. Vitalik compares longevity to Ethereum's own development, saying major upgrades now move faster than five years ago. 12. He argues that longevity needs one visible, concrete success to start an attention-and-funding feedback loop. 13. He cites Aubrey de Grey's mouse-prize framing and says a mouse living for 10 years would change how people view the field. 14. He contrasts that with small lifespan gains from not smoking, eating vegetables, and avoiding bad fats. 15. Vitalik says longevity is not close to that threshold, but he also does not think it is very far away. 16. He points to Ozempic and other non-longevity biology as evidence that science can create visible benefits quickly. 17. The conversation then turns to permissionless experimentation and the risk of low-quality communities producing lots of talk without progress. 18. Vitalik says biology is increasingly becoming a software engineering space, citing gene therapies and COVID vaccines as examples. 19. Listeners interested in Ethereum, longevity, and experimental city-building will get the most from this episode. 20. Listeners looking for a short, purely technical crypto interview may skip it.

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