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storytelling with data podcast: #79 Recast: Cole & EXP Milwaukee

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When you can tap into stories with data, you can really drive somebody to care, understand, and act.

Cole begins with origin and craft. Recast from Experience Milwaukee, the conversation stays close to place, with Steve Glynn asking about data, creative process, life journey, and Milwaukee. Practice keeps coming up. Cole explains that reading a book does not automatically make someone better at communicating with data. The work has to leave the page. You try the tool, make something awkward, adjust it, and ask other people what landed. The blue book is built around that idea. Its exercises give readers real world scenarios, then show Cole's own process so the learning feels less hidden. She also talks about fitting practice into the workday before taking on bigger communication challenges. Steve calls them mini workouts, which fits the tone. This episode treats the craft like a muscle, not a lightning bolt. The yellow book pulls back a little. After a decade of workshops, Cole realized charts and story are only part of what makes communication work. The person in front of the room matters too. Style, comfort, and delivery shape whether people stay interested. Introversion is handled gently here. Cole says she is naturally introverted, while making the case that speaking skills can be sharpened over time. The conversation ends back at community, with Steve thanking Cole and Randy for sharing their home, brains, and experience in a way that helps the people around them.

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