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Even More News: A Ceasefire Except For All That Stuff Happening

April 10, 2026·1 hr 5 min·5 clips
An Iranian physician wakes to a U.S. president threatening to annihilate his 2,500-year-old civilization.
1. Even More News covers the US-Iran ceasefire and its immediate breakdown, with Iranian-American physician Kaveh Hoda as a return guest providing personal and analytical context. 2. Kaveh Hoda is an Iranian-American physician and host of the podcast House of Pod; his Iranian heritage shapes his reaction throughout the episode as a direct subject of the events discussed. 3. The episode asks how a president can simultaneously announce a ceasefire and post that the military is looking forward to its next conquest, and what the Iranian people's role is in negotiations that will determine their future. 4. Trump's Truth Social post threatened to destroy the Persian civilization—described by Kaveh as over 2,500 years old and home to 90 million people—if Iran did not comply, prompting Kaveh to describe spending Tuesday with a crick in his neck from hunching over his phone. 5. Kaveh states that even if the post was intended as a negotiating tactic, writing 'a whole civilization will die tonight' is disqualifying for a sitting president, regardless of intent. 6. The ceasefire announced by Pakistan explicitly included Lebanon in its language, but JD Vance disputed this, and Israel immediately launched its most intense bombardment of Lebanon following the announcement. 7. Kaveh frames Israel's Lebanon bombardment as terrorism by the same definition that would apply if a foreign nation bombed a US city to root out a designated domestic terrorist group. 8. The hosts discuss whether Trump was duped by Netanyahu into thinking the Iran operation would be quick and easy, drawing a comparison to Venezuela where a similar rapid result emboldened the administration. 9. Cody argues Trump did not need to be duped—he has wanted to bomb Iran and take its oil for years and decades, and simply found an easy excuse when the opportunity arose. 10. Melania Trump made a public statement during the taping denying any friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, which the hosts read as a signal that new Epstein-related material is about to become public. 11. Trump's sons reportedly invested in a drone company that is presenting products to Gulf States, framing personal financial enrichment as a partial explanation for the administration's decision-making. 12. JD Vance replaced Jared Kushner as the lead US negotiator; the hosts note Iran requested Vance specifically because his anti-war image gives him political incentive to reach a deal before 2028. 13. Vance used a skydiving analogy to describe Iran's uranium enrichment rights—his wife has the right to skydive but doesn't because of their marital agreement—which Cody and Kaveh identify as a structural description of the Obama Iran nuclear deal. 14. Kaveh notes that the analogy's condescending framing—a husband telling his wife what to do—also reflects how the administration talks about sovereign nations. 15. Trump posted that the US military was 'loading up and resting' and 'looking forward actually to its next conquest,' a phrase Kaveh ties to Geneva Convention additional protocols prohibiting threats to civilian populations. 16. Kaveh notes the US never ratified those additional protocols but the Department of Defense adopted the key language, making Trump's post a violation of its own military's stated norms. 17. The episode is a fast, overlapping four-person panel with a mix of dark humor, visible frustration, and Kaveh's recurring personal grounding as an Iranian-American; tone shifts between jokes about the Strait of Hormuz pronunciation and grief over civilian deaths. 18. The hosts frequently interrupt each other to layer points; Kaveh's register is more emotionally urgent than the hosts', particularly when discussing Iranian people being excluded from negotiations. 19. Best suited for listeners who want Iranian-American perspective on the conflict combined with left-leaning media criticism of Trump and Vance's contradictions. 20. Listeners who want neutral analysis, military commentary, or perspectives favorable to US or Israeli actions will not find them here.

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A sharp, funny political conversation that keeps the stakes front and center.

Katie Stoll and Cody Johnston keep the episode moving through a volatile political moment, with the president’s threat to destroy a civilization, the negotiations ahead, and J.D. Vance’s shifting role all in view.

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