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2️⃣ - Expediente Vallecas: La Gran Mentira Que España Se Creyó. Con Manuel Carballal

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How did a baby's spilled potito become a debated 'ectoplasma' in Spain's most famous poltergeist case?

The episode opens with a critique of how paranormal investigators misconstrued mundane details, like a baby's potito, as supernatural phenomena in the Vallecas case. Manuel Carballal, a guest, recounts his involvement as a collaborator with Miguel Blanco's program 'Espación Blanco', where he worked with Iker Jiménez and Lorenzo Fernández. He describes how Iker Jiménez obtained police documents about the Vallecas incident after Carballal shared them, leading to a televised reveal on Pepe Navarro's show 'Cruzando el Mississippi'. This moment legitimized the case publicly, despite Carballal noting it was not unique, as he had records of other poltergeist cases with police reports. Carballal discusses Pepe Navarro's role in sensationalizing the story, using it for weeks of content to boost ratings. He reveals that Navarro's team had a derogatory term, 'Pertur' (short for perturbed), for guests discussing UFOs, Virgin Mary apparitions, or alien abductions, indicating a cynical view of their content. The conversation shifts to the broader context of 1990s Spanish television, where programs like 'Cruzando el Mississippi' and 'Crónicas Marcianas' featured eccentric 'frikis' for entertainment, creating a cultural phenomenon. Carballal admits his own participation in these shows, lured by perks like first-class flights and hotel stays, and the vanity of TV fame. He reflects on how this media environment exploited vulnerable individuals for laughs, with audiences complicit in demanding such content. The episode concludes with a critique of societal responsibility, suggesting that if viewers changed channels, these programs would adapt or fail. Throughout, Carballal emphasizes the need for skepticism in paranormal claims and media integrity, drawing from his extensive experience in investigating police cases and UFO phenomena.

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