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EP 290 - STUTZ (2022) with Sasha Feiler

·1 hr 4 min·5 clips
Sasha defends the Netflix documentary 'Stutz' about Jonah Hill's therapist, despite its mixed public perception.
The episode begins with Joe Cabello introducing the podcast and a humorous setup with Lorraine de Graaf co-hosting in place of Sasha Feiler, who is sick but participates. Sasha explains she is defending the documentary 'Stutz,' which she loves despite public criticism or lack of awareness. She describes it as a film by Jonah Hill about his psychotherapist Phil Stutz, highlighting Stutz's hands-on behavioral tools for managing emotional pain. The hosts discuss Jonah Hill's mental health and a controversy involving his use of therapy language with his girlfriend. Lorraine shares her experience with exposure response prevention therapy for anxiety, drawing parallels to Stutz's methods. Sasha emphasizes the simplicity and visual appeal of Stutz's tools, such as naming sources of pain and the concept of the shadow. Joe expresses initial skepticism about the documentary's premise but acknowledges some resonance. Lorraine reveals a personal vulnerability, feeling jealous of Jonah Hill's perceived coolness but finding common ground in shared suffering. The conversation compares Stutz's teachings to Buddhist mindfulness and other self-help figures like Brené Brown. Sasha recounts a bad therapist experience involving a criminal case, contrasting it with her positive current therapist. The episode concludes with ratings: Joe gives 'Stutz' a 6.5 based on a Gundam anime scale, Lorraine rates it a 7 compared to therapy experiences, and Sasha gives it an 8.5. The hosts promote their projects, and Joe thanks listeners.

As heard by us

A funny, slightly messy conversation about Stutz, anxiety, and why action can matter more than arguing with fear.

Stutz gives Joe and Lorraine a springboard for a funny, emotionally attentive conversation about therapy, anxiety, and the appeal of treatment advice that feels usable.

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Why you'd press play

You want a therapy-film conversation that explains ERP while nervously Googling what the acronym means.

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