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Hedge Fund Strategies for Beginners - Bob Elliott | Unlimited Funds

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Bob Elliott warned Geithner that every major U.S. bank would be broke within a year—before the crisis hit.
This episode of Shares for Beginners features host Phil Muscatello interviewing Bob Elliott, co-founder and CEO of Unlimited Funds, a firm making hedge fund strategies accessible to everyday investors. Elliott is a former Bridgewater Associates executive who directly advised policymakers during the 2008 financial crisis. He explains that hedge funds are defined by their ability to take both long and short positions across unconstrained, global asset classes, unlike traditional long-only managers. Elliott recounts a specific lunch in late 2007 with then-New York Fed head Timothy Geithner, where he presented analysis showing every major U.S. financial institution was likely to fail. He shares a key early lesson from losing his first year's income trading natural gas, emphasizing the necessity of having a unique edge and humility in markets. He states even the world's best investors are only right about 55% of the time on individual trades, comparing it to Roger Federer winning just 52% of points played. Unlimited Funds uses computational techniques to infer real-time hedge fund manager positions by analyzing their returns, packaging these insights into ETFs. This approach allows tactical positioning, like global macro managers increasing gold exposure ahead of geopolitical events, without investors actively managing trades. The firm's ETFs, like HFND and HFGM, invest across assets including equities, bonds, currencies, and commodities, mirroring different hedge fund styles. Elliott criticizes the traditional "2 and 20" fee model, where a 2% management fee plus 20% of profits, combined with passed-through operational expenses, can consume over 50% of an investment's prospective return. He highlights that Unlimited's ETF structure charges a 95 basis point management fee, about a tenth of the typical hedge fund fee load, and offers greater tax efficiency and transparency. He identifies only three assets that truly diversify a standard 60/40 portfolio: gold, diversified commodities, and low-cost hedge fund strategies. The tone is educational and conversational, blending personal anecdotes with clear explanations of complex financial concepts. Listeners interested in portfolio diversification, hedge fund mechanics, and low-cost alternative investments will find this episode valuable. Those seeking basic stock market advice or who are skeptical of algorithmic investment strategies may find the content too specialized.

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A clear look at hedge fund fees and the appeal of an ETF wrapper for tactical macro positioning.

Bob Elliott breaks down how hedge fund style investing gets packaged for ordinary investors through an ETF wrapper. The sharpest part of the discussion is the fee math: 2% plus 20% sounds abstract until it starts chewing into returns.

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