The Who What Wear Podcast: Makeup Artist Pati Dubroff on Blush Placement, Gray Mascara, and Making Press-Tour Magic With Margot Robbie

April 1, 2026·29 min·2 clips

Pati Dubr breaks down the Chanel crayon and matte stone shadow that created Kirsten Dunst's sooty, lived-in eye.

Hilary opens with receipts. Pati Dubroff is tied to Margot Robbie press tour moments, Sophia Richie Grange bridal makeup, and the 2004 Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen Got Milk look, so the setup has plenty to work with. Then the details get small in the best way. The liveliest part is the lash talk, where Pati says she used gray or taupe mascara instead of the usual dark sweep. Hilary is hooked right away. The choice works because Pati wanted the lash to show up without turning dark, heavy, or bossy on camera. The lid stays quiet too. Pati mentions a nude Chanel crayon, a taupe base, and a matte flesh toned shadow that keeps the eye almost invisible. Then comes the cheek. Hilary asks straight up about blush placement and application, after noting that one shade has already sold out everywhere. Pati keeps it practical. Berry Boost, Pomegranate, and Dusty Rose each do a different job, depending on whether the face needs more intensity or a softer wash. The placement is restrained. Instead of dragging blush high across the cheekbone, Pati leaves space for highlight so the cheekbones still pop. The lips stay believable: natural lip color, just turned up a notch. The whole chat feels like a beauty drawer debrief, with Hilary reacting in real time and Pati making the technique feel usable. At the end, Hilary thanks Pati, points listeners to the Who What Wear podcast YouTube channel, and closes with production credits.

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A product-heavy makeup conversation about gray mascara, blush placement, and press-tour polish.

Hilary Kerr hosts a close, detail-heavy beauty conversation with the makeup artist, moving from the Barbie press tour to the Wuthering Heights press tour, then the 2004 Got Milk ad with Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, and on to bridal makeup for a wedding.

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If you want backstage makeup notes from Patti Dubrov, the artist behind Margot Robbie looks and other press-tour polish.

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