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BONUS: We go behind the scenes with Charlie and Nancy.

June 28, 2023·25 min·2 clips

A real cancer patient named Hannah says Amanda Riley contacted her, smothered her with care packages, and then tried to steer her away from Stanford Cancer Center.

Charlie says questions remain, so he brings Nancy into the studio for a more settled conversation about what Amanda did. Nancy expected the case to move fast. She started looking into Amanda in 2015, but nothing fully resolved until Amanda went to jail in 2022. That still catches her off guard. What seemed obvious became slower, stranger, and harder to explain. Then other people start reaching out. Since the podcast aired, Nancy says people from schools where Amanda worked have contacted her with details that sound a lot like what happened in church. The pattern gets wider. According to those messages, Amanda brought middle school kids into prayer sessions and testimony moments, and presented her cancer story as something inspirational. Charlie and Nancy sit with how uncomfortable that is. Hannah's part is even more personal. Diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma in 2015, she says Amanda Riley started texting, calling, messaging, and sending gifts. At first it looked like help. Then it felt like pressure. Hannah says Amanda seemed too eager to have another person inside what she called the cancer club. The discomfort was hard to explain. Her husband and brother thought she was being rude, so she tried to accept the attention as support. The feeling stayed. Amanda wanted her to join clubs, attend support groups, and go to events where cancer patients could receive free things. The bonus ends softly, with Charlie thanking Nancy, telling listeners more bonus episodes are coming, and leaving the fallout unresolved.

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A measured bonus episode that expands the Amanda Riley case through Nancy Moscatello and Hannah's firsthand account.

Bonus material keeps the focus on Amanda Riley, Nancy Moscatello, and the long road that ended in prison in 2022. Nancy says she has been following the case since 2015 and is still taken aback by how much attention it keeps drawing, while new contacts from the schools Amanda…

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For the listener who wants the story behind the story, with Nancy in the room.

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