Revista Crisis

| crisis internacional | entrevista a Jun Fujita Hirose.

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Jun Fujita Hirose explains how Gilles Deleuze argued Israel presents itself as an exception while placing Palestinians outside history.
The episode begins with hosts Viole Weber and Mario Santuccio introducing guest Jun Fujita Hirose, a Japanese philosopher promoting his book 'Los Indios de Israel: una lectura de los textos de Gilles Deleuze sobre Palestina,' published by Tinta Limón Ediciones. Hirose explains his book's central thesis: Deleuze argued against Israeli exceptionalism by asserting Israel is a normal capitalist state and Palestinians are a normal people. The conversation delves into Deleuze's 1978 texts where he militated against official Israeli discourse. Hirose discusses the legal and political dimensions of Israeli exceptionalism, noting how it allows Western powers to appropriate anti-genocide rhetoric. The hosts ask about the 2023 ICC accusations against Israel, prompting Hirose to analyze the history of the genocide concept. He reveals it was invented in 1944 by Polish Jewish jurist Rafael Limkin, with the U.S. adopting it only in 1988. Hirose traces its first major international use during the Rwandan civil war as part of Washington Consensus structural adjustment. He details how the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum pushed genocide accusations against Sudan's president in 2004 due to his Chinese oil partnerships. Hirose expresses doubt about the genocide concept's effectiveness against the U.S. and Israel today. The discussion shifts to Jean Genet's concept of betrayal from Hirose's book's third chapter. Genet supported Palestinians but promised to betray them if they formed a normal state, viewing such state formation as a betrayal of revolutionary struggle. Hirose connects this to Deleuze and Guattari's distinction between evolution and revolutionary becoming. The hosts ask about applicability to current conflicts, leading Hirose to cite Iran's 2022 women-led uprising as a revolutionary recommencement, paralleling Chile's 2019 protests. He mentions Mapuche women in Argentina betraying from within resistance movements. The episode concludes with event announcements: Hirose's book presentation on March 21st at the Human Rights Book Fair in Buenos Aires, and the hosts promoting their newsletter covering Gaza, Colombia, Bolsonarist asylum in Argentina, Trump's Shield of the Americas summit, and Iran.
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