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14085 Jill Nicolini Interviews Randy Swaim Marshall Goldsmith Certified Executive Coach & Founder of Coaching for Relevance, LLC

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Randy Swaim says influence is inevitable, even when nobody thinks they are influencing anyone.

1. Podcast Business News Network episode 14085 centers on Randy Swaim’s talk about the “power of influence.” 2. Jill Nicolini hosts Randy Swaim, a Marshall Goldsmith certified executive coach, professional speaker, and president of Coaching for Relevance. 3. The episode asks how leaders shape people when “influence is not an option.” 4. Jill opens with a Hudson River emergency landing involving a flight instructor, a student, and an engine failure. 5. Randy connects that pilot’s calm response to his own story about a bird strike over the Atlantic Ocean at about 30 to 35 feet above the water. 6. He says unexpected situations force leaders to make the right decisions without distraction. 7. Randy states that influence happens “even if you’re not doing anything,” because every interaction and decision affects people. 8. He says team members can be influenced by the situation around them, not only by a manager’s words. 9. He argues that telling people what to do without coaching can create negative influence. 10. He describes teaching a high school class about how students should think about influence after graduation. 11. Randy cites Jackie Robinson’s quote that “a life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.” 12. He uses that quote to reject narcissistic leadership and attention-seeking behavior. 13. He says a coaching perspective asks questions that get people thinking rather than shutting their minds off. 14. He recounts a text from a part-time instructor after recurrent ground school who praised the unusual way Randy brought ideas out. 15. Randy says the goal is to get people’s thinking, processing, and neuroscience going so they can generate solutions you did not think of. 16. He repeats that influence can be positive or negative, and that leaders need awareness of which one they are creating. 17. The tone is conversational, instructional, and heavy on repeated emphasis for clarity. 18. Jill keeps the pace loose with interjections, while Randy speaks in long explanatory blocks and examples. 19. Good fit for managers, coaches, pilots, and team leaders. 20. Skip if you want a fast, tightly edited interview with few repeated points.

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A plainspoken reminder that leadership is influence, whether it is intended or not.

The piece makes a clean case that influence is constant, whether or not anyone sets out to lead. It links an aviation story to team behavior, showing how every exchange leaves a mark on what others learn, notice, and repeat.

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You get a plainspoken reset on how your influence shows up in everyday leadership.

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