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Rare Rick Owens Jackets, the Marty Supreme Jacket PR Machine, and the Muppets | 13.13

·1 hr 38 min·5 clips

Saul says Lululemon khakis with cowboy boots look like Sonic stepping out of a taxi.

1. Pair of Kings: A Fashion and Culture Podcast centers this episode on Rick Owens jackets, the Marty Supreme jacket PR machine, and a long Muppets discussion. 2. Saul Thompson hosts with Michael Smith, and both matter because Saul drives the fashion anecdotes while Michael pushes back with jokes, fit arguments, and personal shopping reactions. 3. The episode asks what happens when fashion research, store frustration, and pop-culture tangents all get mixed into one conversation. 4. Saul opens with a January 16 birthday party for the podcast, says he started the show in room A42 at Yale’s Jonathan Edwards College, and promises free cake and a cash bar. 5. He says the team wants monthly in-person events, names February as a possible Commune collaboration, and teases “big things” for March. 6. Saul and Michael then explain a Hero Hero giveaway tied to the gear episode, including a military surplus jacket and combat boots in the winner’s size. 7. Saul moves into a personal outfit rundown, naming Vetmont socks, Devoa Superstruct cargos, a Deathline International shirt, a Wise for Home scarf, and a Carhartt jacket. 8. Michael adds his own outfit details, including Birkenstocks worn as house shoes, Rick Owens crops, and a Rick Owens Drain T-shirt with a fabric tube through the chest. 9. Saul says he has been researching Rick Owens through Bailey Goldberg, who called him about sweater makers working with Rick and asked for a shout-out. 10. Saul describes Rick Owens’s early Los Angeles life, including a “bombed out” first apartment and costume work for Ghost of Mars, auto or up the dead people, and Tank Girl. 11. He says Rick did leather jackets for Ghost of Mars and worked with the people who made Bailey’s knitwear on the film’s sweaters. 12. Saul explains that Rick asked for the heel-of-a-sock technique to be used on shoulder pads, which created the Pagoda shape. 13. Michael and Saul then drift into Star Wars boots, with Saul joking that a pair of boots in one scene was instantly recognizable as Rick boots. 14. The conversation widens into Reddit-style prop identification, NBA stat talk, and a complaint about people answering basketball questions only with effective field goal percentage. 15. Saul introduces a Lower East Side type of man who loiters in stores, asks for free clothes, and uses flirting with sales associates as part of the routine. 16. He says one of those men has a huge head, recounts spotting him outside Desert Vintage, and describes laughing when the man looked up at him. 17. Saul then turns to fit politics, arguing that many men claim they cannot find pants that fit their thighs because they want the hem, ankle, and boot shape to look too slim. 18. He says boot cuts exist for boots, compares a bad outfit to Sonic the Hedgehog stepping out of a taxi, and keeps escalating the joke with Michael. 19. The episode sounds loose, rapid, and highly conversational, with a lot of interruptions, joking corrections, and store-name callouts like Front General Store, Totem, Nepenthes, and Manahatta. 20. Listeners who like fashion-store gossip, Rick Owens lore, and New York fit arguments will enjoy it, while people wanting a tightly structured topic or no detours may skip it.

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A loose fashion hangout that turns retail frustration into a conversation about status and belonging.

This Pair of Kings episode stays loose and conversational, with the hosts circling fashion frustration, the hunt for a large at Front General Store, and the appeal of looking like you belong.

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When a search for a large turns into a fashion rant, a luxury theory, and a Muppet detour.

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