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Paul Thagard, "Bots and Beasts: What Makes Machines, Animals, and People Smart?" (MIT Press, 2021)

August 9, 2025·1 hr·5 clips
Paul Thagard explains why machines can't grasp causality like humans do, despite their advanced problem-solving skills.
Paul Thagard discusses his book 'Bots and Beasts,' comparing intelligence across humans, animals, and machines. He explores gaps in AI, such as lack of causality understanding, and ethical concerns about machine consciousness, while also highlighting surprising animal behaviors like jealousy in dogs.

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A clear look at intelligence that treats creativity as a human need, not just a technical feature.

The discussion of intelligence works best when it moves away from abstract praise and toward the human needs beneath it. It makes a clear case that machines may be creative, but they do not bring the same drive people have to make ideas that are new, useful, and worth acting on.

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Press play if you want a calm, serious conversation about why human creativity seems tied to our needs and drives.

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