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Special Guest Episode- In coversation with Author N Leigh Hunt - School Shootings

·1 hr 15 min·4 clips

Brenda Spencer answered, “I don’t like Mondays,” after a newspaper call from the scene.

Marty and Effie open by celebrating their third year of podcasting. They frame the episode as a special guest interview and say they first met N. Lee Hunt at CrimeCon earlier in the year, where he was one of their top highlights. Getting him onto the podcast felt like a proper dream. Before the conversation starts, they warn listeners that the topic is school shootings in Scotland and America, along with violence against very young children. They make it clear that this may be too heavy for some people, and that warning lands for good reason. It sets the tone for a conversation that stays close to painful ground. Hunt arrives with strong credentials as a South African-born author, crime historian, broadcaster, and member of the American Society of Criminology. The hosts lean on that expertise instead of smoothing it over. He talks about his book, *I Don't Like Mondays*, and the years of interviews and research behind it. The discussion keeps circling back to the first modern school shooting in America. Hunt explains why the history matters and why getting it right takes time. The conversation then moves into the legal and prison side of these crimes. He brings up Franklin hearings, parole, and the way California handles offenders who were young at the time. The stakes feel even sharper when he points out that several school shooters there may be up for parole in the next couple of years. He suggests that more former shooters could be released than people expect. Marty and Effie stay engaged, shocked, and very human throughout. The show then closes on a strange little email joke about overnight oats. That ending gives the episode an oddly warm finish after such a dark subject.

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A candid, heavy interview that gives serious material room to breathe.

The episode opens with a blunt warning about school shootings in Scotland and America, along with violence against very young children. N. Lee Hunt comes across as a serious guest from the start: he is introduced as a South African-born author, crime historian, broadcaster, and…

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If you want an expert, conversational take on school shootings in Scotland and America, plus violence against very young children, press play.

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