More Than Just Code podcast - iOS, visionOS and Swift development, news and advice · Tim Mitra, Jaime Lopez Jr, Mark Rubin

Screaming Snoopy Face - A WWDC25 Preview

·2 hr 20 min·20 clips

The hosts open by sorting out where everyone is calling from. They debate Sonoma, Petaluma, and whether anyone should really be saying either one with much confidence. Tim, Jaime, Josh, Evan, and Peter settle in as a proper WWDC treat panel. Peter gives a quick geography check on Hearst, Texas, and the DFW talk turns into a familiar little side riff. That loose opening does its job and gives the conversation room to breathe. The center of the episode is Vision Pro. Josh walks through a keyboard detection problem that keeps showing up in immersive environments. He says the headset is not seeing his space black Magic Keyboard and Magic Trackpad the way it should. He has already tried the obvious fixes. He has contacted Apple Support, pushed the brightness, taken the headset outside in full sun, and even set the device up as new. None of it has fixed the issue. The group hears that and immediately understands why the situation feels less like a small bug and more like a real daily-work problem. From there the conversation gets playful. If Vision Pro cannot reliably understand the keyboard sitting in front of you, what would a better pairing story even look like? One idea is an NFC chip on the headset so you could tap it to your face to connect instantly. That joke opens the door to a bunch of impossible-but-not-totally-impossible headset ideas. They imagine the future getting weirder and weirder, with tap-to-pay and contact actions. The humor stays tied to a real frustration, which is why it lands. The panel is not joking in the abstract. It is joking because the hardware problem is specific enough to make better ideas feel just barely out of reach. The hosts also compare notes on the little text suggestion window that can appear with a Magic Keyboard. That detail matters because it shows they are not talking about Vision Pro as a concept. They are talking about the actual lived experience of trying to use it as a computer. That keeps the exchange grounded even when the jokes go sideways. The conversation circles back more than once to the same basic question: is this platform ready for ordinary productivity, or is it still asking developers to put up with too much friction? Near the end, the mood shifts from device talk to broader developer frustration. They mention being surprised by the negative feelings coming out of recent Under the Radar episodes. That observation turns into a short reflection on how Apple developers are feeling heading into Monday's reveal. The timing matters. The episode lands right before Apple is expected to show its hand, so the uncertainty is part of the point. The hosts are not pretending to know what will be announced. They are sitting in the same waiting room as everyone else. The last stretch keeps that tone. The conversation stays warm and conversational, but it sharpens into a kind of pre-announcement reality check. Everyone seems aware that the next major Apple reveal could reset the discussion around Vision Pro, developer tooling, and what the platform will ask from people building for it. The episode closes with that feeling intact. It is not a polished preview deck. It is a working-developer conversation with a few good jokes and a lot of practical skepticism.

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A loose WWDC-season hangout that turns real Vision Pro frustration into practical Apple-developer context.

This episode reads as a WWDC-season hangout that drifts from location banter into the more practical concerns Apple developers are likely weighing next, with Vision Pro at the center.

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If you want WWDC nerves, Vision Pro quirks, and developer-table banter, press play.

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