More Than Just Code podcast - iOS, visionOS and Swift development, news and advice · Tim Mitra, Jaime Lopez Jr, Mark Rubin

Charlie Chapman - A day in the life of Developer Advocate

·1 hr 21 min·5 clips

Tim starts with a joke about Charlie Chapman’s name, because it is only a small typo away from Charlie Chaplin. It is a light bit, but it does exactly what a good opening riff should do: it loosens things up. Once the banter settles, the conversation moves toward Charlie’s conference talks and his work at RevenueCat. He talks about the pressure of giving talks that are actually useful to developers instead of sounding like a polished ad for RevenueCat. Charlie says his boss is very clear about that line, which is probably a good thing. The aim is to make the session valuable for the people in the room, even when the topic has to connect back to payments or monetization. That framing leads into his recent talk work, including a session in Amsterdam about backend-driven paywall UI. Charlie describes it as a way to talk about a broader UI framework idea while still keeping the subject tied to paywalls and revenue. Tim mentions seeing Charlie speak in Beijing and says he borrowed some ideas from the talk. That kind of detail gives the episode a grounded feel, because the ideas are being treated as tools, not slogans. The conversation also touches on RevenueCat’s product philosophy. Charlie explains that the company can let smaller developers use the same core features as larger teams because its charging model does not force hard gates everywhere. That means a college project and a bigger company can share the same base level of access. The discussion also moves into power-user features and experiments as apps scale. There is also a stretch about conference life, including Deep Dish and the live podcast he is doing there with Sean Allen. The whole thing feels like the kind of Apple-community conversation that mixes travel, speaking, product strategy, and a little self-deprecating humor. It never tries to over-polish the subject into a keynote. Instead, it keeps circling back to what actually helps developers in the room. That makes it a good fit for listeners who like developers, indie app economics, and the practical side of speaking to other builders.

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A candid conference-scene conversation that keeps the focus on useful talks rather than product ads.

Charlie Chapman’s appearance on More Than Just Code keeps its attention on the work around conference speaking: how talks stay useful, how RevenueCat stories avoid sounding like ads, and how those choices come across to listeners.

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You want the conference-hangout version of an Apple-platform talk that still teaches something.

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