British MP Darren Jones on Labour, Brexit and the United Kingdom's place in the world

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British Cabinet Minister Darren Jones explains how growing up in poverty under a Labour government shaped his political rise.

Michael Fulilove interviews Darren Jones, a British Cabinet Minister and key figure in Keir Starmer's government. Jones shares his background growing up in poverty in Bristol, crediting the 1997 Labour government for transforming his life chances. He discusses his admiration for Tony Blair while acknowledging criticisms, emphasizing the need for Labour to modernize and stay in the political centre. Jones outlines the Labour government's inheritance of a weak economy and public services, detailing their strategy to deliver quick wins and long-term progress before the 2029 election. He analyzes the rise of right-wing populist parties like Reform UK, linking it to living standards and inflation challenges. Jones critiques David Cameron's handling of the Brexit referendum, describing it as careless and leading to a basic trade deal, and explains Labour's efforts to reset EU relations without rejoining. He addresses the complexities of UK-US relations under a potential second Trump term, stressing institutional ties and UK sovereignty. Jones defends the AUKUS submarine agreement, highlighting its security necessity and economic opportunities through skilled jobs and industrial growth. The conversation touches on defense spending trade-offs, with Jones noting Labour's difficult decision to shift funds from international aid. He concludes with personal remarks on his connection to Sydney, reflecting on his journey from a council estate to high office.

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Darren Jones links Labour's fight with populism to living standards, inflation, and Britain's electoral system.

Labour's answer to the populist right is grounded here in household economics. British Cabinet Minister Darren Jones MP argues that political room depends on whether people feel better off and believe the country is moving in the right direction.

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