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The Pro Say Podcast Says Goodbye

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Amber McKinney says Pro Say is ending after 352 episodes and seven years.

1. Law360's Pro Say ends with Amber McKinney, Alex Lawson, and Haley Knoth reflecting on the podcast’s final episode and the show’s seven-year run. 2. Amber McKinney hosts the farewell, Alex Lawson serves as co-host, and Haley Knoth describes herself as the “new kid” after two years on the program. 3. The episode asks what Pro Say was for: a send-off that explains the show’s value through the moments its hosts still remember. 4. Amber says the podcast reached its 352nd episode according to Apple Podcasts, while the team also counts pre-launch work back to 2017. 5. Alex says the shutdown was not the decision of anyone on the call and that the parent company’s “different priorities” made the show a casualty. 6. Haley says she was impressed by guests ranging from jury-duty participants to lawyers featured in documentaries. 7. Haley singles out James Pierce, a former Bachelorette contestant who is also an attorney at Mayer Brown, as the guest she had the most fun interviewing. 8. Pierce describes getting universal support from firm management, a risk team, and partners before appearing on The Bachelorette. 9. Amber and Haley say his colleagues even followed spoilers and joked about whether he was still on the show. 10. Alex says the James Pierce booking was a “proof of concept moment” for Pro Say’s mix of law and pop culture. 11. Alex lists earlier coverage of Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation, including episode 73 on Christine Blasey Ford and episode 269 on lingering investigation questions. 12. He also points to episode 303 with Jonathan Scermetti and episode 117, “Can a Robot Get a Patent,” as examples of the show getting ahead of AI legal questions. 13. Alex cites episode 135 on Trump’s first impeachment and the Senate trial process, with Norm Ornstein from the American Enterprise Institute. 14. Haley and Amber revisit the show’s pop-culture side, including mock Emmys, mock Oscars, and a Grammy-themed episode with a Spotify playlist. 15. Alex’s favorite single segment is episode 149, the May 2020 Judge Jed Rakoff interview about early-pandemic federal court disruptions. 16. Rakoff describes virtual hearings, technical glitches, and the ability of the host to mute everyone on the line from one end of the call. 17. The conversation has a loose, self-aware farewell tone, with the hosts repeatedly acknowledging that the show’s end is hard to process. 18. The format is reflective and interview-driven, with clips, personal recollections, and a late-episode appearance by Bill Donahue. 19. Listeners who liked legal news mixed with pop culture and workplace stories. 20. Listeners looking for a tightly focused law-news roundup only.

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A plainspoken farewell that gives Pro Se's ending a quiet, fitting finality.

Pro Se ends on a plainspoken goodbye from Amber McKinney, Alex Lawson, and Haley Knoth. They say it is both the last episode of the year and the last episode of the podcast, and they note that Lexus has shifted priorities, bringing the show to an end at episode 352 after seven…

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