Law Firm Growth Podcast · Jan Roos - Legal Marketing Expert, Author, and Speaker

The One System Every High-Growth Law Firm Had in Common with Brooke Lively

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Brooke Lively found that every law firm in her top client bucket except one was running on EOS.

1. The Law Firm Growth Podcast episode examines why the EOS operating system, which Brooke Lively found in all but one of CalCap's best-performing client firms, suits law firm owners. 2. Host Jan Roos interviews returning guest Brooke Lively, founder of CalCap and now, in her words, the only EOS implementer in the U.S. who works exclusively with law firms. 3. Lively's thesis is that CalCap gave bucket A and bucket C clients the same strategic advice and tools, and the difference in results came down to execution. 4. She explains that bucket A clients acted as soon as they got an assignment, while bucket C clients were 'still going, well, maybe we should get some more information' five or six months later. 5. Clients told her they couldn't find an EOS implementer who would work with lawyers or who understood contingency and hourly-combination billing, and her COO Pam then suggested she become an implementer herself. 6. Lively summarizes EOS as Vision, Traction and Healthy, built on six key components: vision, people, data, issues, process and traction, with process meaning documenting the 20% of tasks that drive 80% of the work. 7. She tells firm owners 'Do not grow for growth sake' and says a firm that gives the owner the life they want does not need to reach $3 million, $5 million or $50 million. 8. Roos adds that growth advice can come from sellers with an interest, citing Alex Ramos's 'spend your way through' the $2 to $5 million plateau, and Lively argues EOS lets other people make decisions so the owner is no longer indispensable. 9. She says firing a disruptive but productive employee who fails the 'GWC' test (get it, want it, capacity) usually leaves productivity steady or higher, and tells a story of a 19-year-old junior-college student with a clipboard micromanaging attorneys. 10. Law firm owners and partners stuck on a plateau will get the most from it.

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