Session 1 — Interview with Rosie Hopley and Andrew McCullough

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Rosie Hopley describes finding God's presence in a brothel, which transformed her understanding of mission.

The episode opens with host Olly introducing guests Andy McCullough and Rosie Hopley, along with interviewers Ethan St. Pierre and Rachel Slattery from the church. Rosie Hopley describes her journey into mission, beginning with a childhood concern for women in Leeds' red-light district and a prophetic word 'hear and do' in her mid-forties. She founded Beloved, a ministry visiting massage parlors with goodie bags and cupcakes, which has operated for nearly 14 years. Andy McCullough shares his calling story: saved at 17, he received a prophetic word about going to 'Asia and the ends of the earth' while holding a ticket to India, leading to door-knocking evangelism there. God later directed him to London for 11 years before moving to Istanbul to church plant. The conversation explores themes like the church's misunderstandings of mission. Rosie critiques the savior complex and how churches often mistake middle-class culture for biblical norms, urging a focus on scripture. Andy highlights global mission disparities, noting that a third of the world's population is unreached, yet less than 1% of mission funding targets them. They discuss integrating local and global mission through humility and gratitude, citing examples like welcoming refugees who later return as missionaries. Practical advice includes starting small with hospitality, baking cupcakes, or sending birthday cards to missionaries. Rosie envisions transformative community change over 5-10 years through consistent loving actions, while Andy emphasizes the slow progress in unreached areas. The episode concludes with prayers for commissioning and encouragement to persevere in God's timing.

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A candid church conversation about welcome, uncertainty, and moving before every answer is known.

The episode opens by welcoming Andy McCulloch and Rosie Hopley, then moves into a searching conversation about who feels able to enter church life.

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You want a church conversation about welcoming people in and stepping forward before you know how it will go.

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