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Euro vs Dollaro: la partita delle Stable Coin è già iniziata. Intervista a Cristiano Ventricelli VP Decentralized Finance di Moody's

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Ventricelli states that Tether and Circle combined rank among the top 15 holders of US public debt — exceeding several sovereign states — making stablecoins a strategic instrument of American fiscal policy.

1. This Inside Finance podcast episode — the first in a series called 'Stable Talk' — features Cristiano Ventricelli (Moody's VP in digital finance risk) interviewed by Albertina Nannia (University Roma III researcher in international finance and monetary systems). 2. Ventricelli has 10 years in financial services, a background in quantitative finance, and over three years in decentralized finance lending protocols before joining Moody's. 3. The episode's core argument is that stablecoins have crossed from a crypto-trading niche into a strategically significant financial instrument — one that US fiscal policy now depends on. 4. Ventricelli defines stablecoins as currency representations on a public blockchain, issued by a private company rather than a bank, with reserves theoretically backing each unit 1:1. 5. He identifies the most widespread market misconception: when a stablecoin trades at $0.95 on secondary markets, that is not a breach of the issuer's obligation — the issuer only owes $1 to those who originally deposited $1, not to secondary market buyers. 6. On what makes a stablecoin structurally solid versus fragile, he starts with asset quality: reserve assets must have high credit quality and be liquid, because the issuer may need to sell them quickly during a redemption wave. 7. He cites the March 2023 Silicon Valley Bank collapse as a real-world stress test: Circle's USDC depegged because Circle held cash reserves at SVB, demonstrating that counterparty risk in reserve assets — not just their type — is critical. 8. The most underestimated structural risk, according to Ventricelli, is a race-to-the-gates: even a perfect 1:1 reserve ratio is insufficient if everyone redeems simultaneously and the issuer must sell assets into a falling market, potentially creating a gap between assets and redemption obligations. 9. He notes that this scenario is routinely underestimated because no large-scale stablecoin run has yet occurred — Moody's focuses specifically on such tail risks as part of its rating methodology. 10. On the US policy dimension, Ventricelli states that the Trump administration explicitly chose stablecoins over a CBDC because stablecoin issuers invest reserves primarily in US government securities — making stablecoins a structural buyer of US public debt as deficits grow. 11. He cites a specific and verifiable claim: Tether and Circle combined are currently among the top 15 holders of US public debt, exceeding the holdings of some sovereign states. 12. He contrasts the US approach with Europe's, where MiCA regulation took effect and the European Central Bank is pursuing a wholesale CBDC; he frames Europe's position as defensive — protecting the euro's existing global role — rather than expansionary. 13. The MiCA regulation is described as the first globally to create a defined stablecoin framework; Ventricelli says it provides meaningful clarity but notes all regulation is iterative and MiCA will be refined based on market feedback. 14. Comparing MiCA with the US GENIUS Act is, according to Ventricelli, 'like comparing apples and pears' — the frameworks reflect fundamentally different risk appetites and geopolitical goals. 15. He notes a 9-10 bank European consortium announced a plan to issue a shared stablecoin in Q2 2026, which he reads as a signal that institutions have concluded competing individually in stablecoin issuance is suboptimal. 16. On deposit tokens versus stablecoins versus CBDC, Ventricelli argues all three will coexist with distinct use cases: deposit tokens for institutional settlement efficiency, stablecoins for retail and SME payments, and CBDC as central bank reserve infrastructure. 17. Stablecoin issuer profitability depends largely on interest rate levels — issuers earn interest on reserve assets and pass nothing to stablecoin holders — meaning declining interest rates could threaten business model sustainability. 18. He identifies political orientation and monetary policy as the most underestimated weak signals for the future: the US push to tokenize every asset (backed by the SEC, CFTC, and BlackRock) is creating a global feedback loop that forces other jurisdictions to respond. 19. The tone is technical but accessible, with Nannia asking structured analytical questions and Ventricelli using analogies (cooking ingredients for asset quality, race to the gates for bank runs) to explain complex concepts. 20. The episode is best suited for finance professionals, regulatory analysts, and anyone tracking the intersection of digital assets, monetary policy, and geopolitics; less suited for those wanting a beginner-level introduction to blockchain or cryptocurrency basics.

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