I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

When a detective takes on the system: Graeme Simpfendorfer Pt. 2

·50 min·4 clips
Graeme walks out of the police station feeling a physical weight lift after years of carrying his trauma alone.
This episode is part two of Gary Jubelin's interview with former detective Graeme Simpfendorfer, focusing on Graeme's experience as a victim of historical child sexual abuse. Graeme discusses his decision to come forward after learning another victim had reported, aiming to support others and shed light on the issue. He recounts the initial steps of reporting to police, including making a statement to officers from Wagga, which brought both anxiety and a sense of relief. Graeme details preparing for and executing a recorded phone call to his abuser, advised by expert Patrick Tidmarsh, to gather evidence and reclaim power. The conversation covers the judicial process, where Graeme's case was separated due to the recorded call, leading to delays and multiple trials involving other victims. He explains outcomes like hung juries and low conviction rates, noting the accused was found guilty for some victims but remained on bail. Graeme expresses frustration with systemic delays, lack of information, and the re-traumatizing nature of the court system. He highlights the need for specialized sex offense courts and better resources for victims and support services. Graeme reflects on how the trauma affected his life, including lost passions and trust issues, but also led to personal growth and emotional intelligence. He shares his Ted talk theme about being a role model for his younger self and emphasizes the importance of vulnerability and support. The episode concludes with Gary commending Graeme's courage and providing resources like 1800RESPECT for listeners.

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Graeme's account of confronting the person he says abused him is set against the fear and pressure of court proceedings.

Graeme's account of confronting the person he says abused him gives this second conversation its hard center. He describes making the phone call directly, holding control while his 14-year-old self stayed close to the surface, and knowing the call would be played in court.

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You hear Graeme describe the charged phone call where he confronted his abuser, and how court dates can pull that moment back into the room.

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