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De-Risking Infrastructure: Juan Dumas on Applying learnings from the Indigenous Peoples of Canada in Latin America

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Juan says violent conflict often came from exclusion, not from the project’s footprint.

1. Drumbeats - Canadian Indigenous Investment Podcast frames Juan Dumas’s work as a Latin American application of Indigenous partnership models from Canada. 2. Mark McNacca and Robert Brandt host Juan Dumas, co-founder and partner at Melikina, whose mediation background makes him central to the episode. 3. The episode asks how Canadian Indigenous equity structures can de-risk renewable-energy and infrastructure projects in Latin America. 4. Juan says he studied law in Argentina, disliked it, and moved into mediation after taking classes near the end of his degree. 5. His first formal role was at a small NGO in Argentina in 1999, where he worked on public, social, and environmental disputes. 6. He later became executive director of a civil society organization in Quito and worked there between 2003 and 2009. 7. Juan says that work exposed him to Indigenous peoples across Latin America and to Mapuche communities in Patagonia. 8. He describes mediating natural-resources disputes such as protected areas proposed on Indigenous-owned lands. 9. He later mediated complaints tied to development finance institution investments, using accountability mechanisms and dialogue processes. 10. Juan says many small hydro projects in Guatemala, Mexico, and Honduras had conflict levels far above their environmental impact. 11. He recalls asking community leaders whether they would build the project if it were theirs, and they said yes. 12. That answer led him to conclude that exclusion from economic opportunity, not the project alone, was driving opposition. 13. Juan and Michelle Haag created Melikina after he saw that pattern repeatedly across Latin America. 14. He says Canada became the reference point after they found Indigenous equity partnerships that had been operating since 1991. 15. He argues that Canadian projects show partnerships can work in market terms when corporate and community leaders have the vision and courage to do them. 16. He also points to separation of politics from economics, loan guarantees, bridge loans, and convertible grants as lessons from Canada. 17. Juan says governments in Latin America can help, but he prefers models that work directly between companies and communities. 18. In Neuquén, Patagonia, he says the provincial government has supported a solar project with a Mapuche community without taking over the process. 19. He describes an 18-megawatt solar project with the Mapuche Mijakeo community, on 9,500 hectares, that they helped title before development began. 20. The episode sounds like an interview with policy detail, project finance, and practical examples, and it will suit people interested in Indigenous equity, renewable energy, and Latin American infrastructure; listeners looking for light entertainment or a quick general overview will likely skip it.

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A policy-heavy case for community ownership as a practical way to lower project risk.

Juan Dumas frames Drumbeats around a plain but durable point: when communities are left out of the economics of work on their own lands, the deal can carry that tension for years.

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