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The Truth About Sarah Revisited (LIVE at WBUR)

December 29, 2025·53 min·4 clips

Dex explains that forgiveness means accepting you will never be made whole — 'you have to eat the cost.'

The conversation starts with trust. Jake frames it as the basic social bargain people move through life with, usually without naming it. Then he brings the scale down. This is about expecting something bought online to arrive, sure, but it is also about believing the person beside you is real. The betrayal gets personal fast. Jake talks about friendship through physical, everyday details: tying shoelaces, walking in the woods, talking about kids, going to the ballet. That is why it stings. The harm does not come across as a neat lesson. It sits inside ordinary closeness. The hosts treat scams less like clever tricks and more like attacks on the habits that let people live around one another. Michelle's tape changes the room. She says hurt changes people differently, and her answer is to cut things off hard. The joke lands sideways. When she texts friends to ask whether they are who they say they are, it is funny until it is not. Jess gets the instinct. The hosts play with the line, but they keep coming back to the sadder thought under it. A scam can spread outward, from one false person to a bigger fear that your own experience cannot be trusted. Jake keeps the tone steady. Even live, the episode stays with the human detail, then lets the meaning catch up.

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A live Deep Cover revisit about how intimate scams damage trust long after the lie comes apart.

Deep Cover's live revisit of "The Truth About Sarah" keeps its attention on the wreckage a scam leaves behind. Jake Halpern and Jess talk through trust as something ordinary and almost invisible: the belief that goods will arrive, institutions will hold, and friends are who they…

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A conversation that turns a scam into a hard look at trust, betrayal, and what happens when someone you know is not who they seemed.

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