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DCN Podcast #189: JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX, CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, JUNGLE LEAGUE & MORE!!

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Steve J. Ray and Brad Felicki open with a weird Batman Returns-era rumor. They revisit the idea of a Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman movie and compare it with the black-and-white Burton version they prefer. That contrast becomes the hook. They wonder how audiences in the mid-1990s would have reacted to a black-and-white superhero film, and whether the idea might land better now than it would have then. The conversation then spreads out. From there they move into DCU speculation, using the story to talk about James Gunn, Matt Reeves, and the value of a grounded project sitting beside a bigger franchise. The hosts sound cautiously optimistic. One reading is that a more grounded series helps answer the worry that the new DCU will all feel the same. That leads into a broader argument. They treat the approach as a sign that Gunn may be building something deeper and more artist-friendly than some cynical fans expect. The tone stays warm. The show then turns to Batman: Caped Crusader, which was first touted for Max and is now headed to Prime. Steve and Brad note that the series is written and partly or almost completely filmed. Ed Brubaker's comments become the next anchor point. They like that Brubaker says the series will differ from Batman: The Animated Series in a few key ways. That opens into a defense of the older show. The hosts point out that Batman: The Animated Series was already gritty and already trusted its audience. They also notice the point that Caped Crusader will feature plenty of people getting punched on screen, while arguing that the older series was not exactly shy about action either. The episode wraps with Steve's plugs for his writing and Fantastic Universes, the coming YouTube channel, and the new Detective Comments Batman podcast. It ends on the show's familiar note of asking listeners to read more comics.

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A DC news chat that turns a Catwoman what-if and Cape Crusader into a debate about tone and continuity.

DC Comics News Podcast #189 moves from a Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman what-if into a broader look at tone, continuity, and what can fit inside a larger DCU. Steve J.

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