Creator Lab - interviews with entrepreneurs and startup founders · Bilal Zaidi

Ben Tossell, Ben's Bites // AI Hype Cycle, 2023 Predictions & OpenAI vs Google vs Microsoft

·1 hr 15 min·5 clips
He says AI could become a personal assistant that knows his calendar, hotels, and travel preferences.
1. Creator Lab talks with Ben Tossell about AI hype cycle debates, 2023 predictions, and the rivalry between OpenAI, Google, and Microsoft. 2. Ben Tossell is the guest, known for MakerPad, the Zapier acquisition, and Ben's Bites, which the host says started on October 10th. 3. The episode asks how AI will reshape search, workflows, and personal assistants without requiring users to code. 4. Ben links his interest in no-code to AI because he does not code and does not want to. 5. He says AI feels different from older services because a prompt can produce a blog post, an image, or a reply in a chat box. 6. He says there are 150 to 200 research papers released every Monday to Friday, which is why he curates Ben's Bites. 7. He points to OpenAI's ChatGPT, DALL-E, and Whisper as examples of models released in different forms. 8. He describes ChatGPT as a chat bot that actually works, unlike many website customer-service bots. 9. He says DALL-E can generate an image such as an astronaut riding a horse on the moon from typed text. 10. He explains embeddings as a way to search and map customer data or complaints to related results. 11. He says Google and Microsoft have more brand risk than OpenAI because a bad output could damage their products and reputation. 12. He references Microsoft's Tay chatbot as an example of a launch that went wrong quickly. 13. He says Microsoft is investing over a billion dollars in OpenAI and may integrate GPT models into Office, PowerPoint, and Bing. 14. He argues that Google search already pushes users toward products like Google Flights and shopping results on the front page. 15. He says search should split into two tasks: getting an answer and getting work done. 16. He gives recipes and travel as examples of queries that could be handled differently by an AI assistant. 17. The tone is conversational, practical, and exploratory, with the host pushing for concrete use cases and comparisons. 18. The format stays interview-driven, with long back-and-forth explanations and examples from the host's own work and travel habits. 19. Best for founders, product people, and AI-curious builders. 20. Skip if you want deep technical model details or a fast news recap.

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A grounded AI conversation about assistants, search, and memory-driven software reshaping everyday tasks.

Ben Tossell treats AI as a set of practical habits, not a haloed promise. Search, shopping, travel, and other routine tasks get easier when software remembers preferences instead of starting over each time.

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You want a grounded take on who wins the AI assistant layer.

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