Eric says Clavicular promotes “looks maxing,” including “face hammering” and “bone smashing.”
1. Connections with Evan Dawson uses “Defining modern masculinity” to connect Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate, and a February 2025 White House intervention described in ProPublica reporting.
2. Steve Peacock, a 1988 McQuaid Jesuit graduate, sexual abuse survivor, prevention advocate for I Have the Right To, and vice president of strategic growth for Edelman Financial Engines, joins as the main guest.
3. Adam Baber, McQuaid Jesuit’s director of service and justice, and students James Hay and Eric Gousset provide the school’s perspective on teenage male culture.
4. The episode asks what masculinity means when online influencers, school culture, and relationships all reward dominance, silence, or violence.
5. Peacock says “traditional masculinity failed me,” failed his father, and failed a family of six boys and one girl, then links that failure to his abuse at age 11.
6. He describes using humor, distraction, anger, and emotional distance to hide abuse and to gain status at McQuaid Jesuit, Georgetown, and in financial services.
7. Peacock says a professor of social justice, the D.C. Women’s March in January 2017, and meeting Alex Prout through I Have the Right To changed how he saw misogyny and harm.
8. He says the Women’s March showed millions of women saying “this behavior is not okay,” and he connects that memory to his own behavior.
9. He ties his own abuse and misogyny to the Me Too movement and to what he calls the Epstein sex trafficking case.
10. Peacock uses Movember to point to men’s mental health, including the claim that 40% of men showed depressive symptoms, 44% thought about suicide in the past two weeks, and 65% of 18-to-23-year-olds said no one really knows them well.
11. He says a Bechtel Foundation commitment of $7 million with the American Society for Prevention of Suicide reflects how seriously the problem reaches the workplace.
12. Evan Dawson plays Andrew Tate’s claim that cheating moves from deception to “force,” and Peacock says a loving relationship is “two equal partners.”
13. Adam Baber says the phrase “your woman” treats a partner “as if it’s property,” then points to McQuaid retreats as a place for honest relationship-building.
14. James Hay says TikTok and Instagram algorithms reward clicks, outrage, and “rage baiting” over authentic community.
15. Eric Gousset says many students use Andrew Tate jokes as cover, then argues that jokes can hide genuine belief and make it hard to know who actually agrees.
16. James says some people now say unironically that women should not vote, and he treats that as evidence that edgy jokes have moved into mainstream belief.
17. Peacock returns to the idea that intervention should be intentional and safe, and he names “the five D’s” as one way to respond when direct confrontation is not safe.
18. He says the strongest people he knows include Jesse Prout, Hillary Simon, Leslie Morgan Steiner, and Chanel Miller, whose experiences changed his thinking about accountability and justice.
19. The tone is conversational and reflective, with school-aged guests, first-person testimony, and direct excerpts from online clips.
20. Listeners interested in male mental health, education, and online culture will get the most from it, while listeners wanting light entertainment will probably skip it.
