Heart to Heart 62 - Lauren & Nick

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Nick Miller asks Lauren Ryan how Jesus shatters normal life in their new sermon series 'Everywhere We Go'.

The episode begins with host Nick Miller introducing Lauren Ryan, a member of Coeur Church, for a heart-to-heart discussion. They start by talking about Lauren's background, including her move to Philly and return to Pittsburgh, and her journey into motherhood. The conversation shifts to the week's sermon from the series 'Everywhere We Go', which explores being sent by Jesus and shattering normalcy. Lauren reflects on how Jesus shattered norms through his words and actions, particularly by recognizing the faith of Gentiles and outcasts. Nick asks Lauren for a self-assessment on norms that need shattering in her life, leading her to confess struggles with self-righteousness and pride. Lauren explains that God has been working to remove pride from her life, especially in her service at church. She then outlines a process for shattering normal: starting with repentance, letting God reveal issues, and then walking through trials that He sets up. Nick affirms this approach and encourages listeners to take it seriously. Lauren then asks Nick a question about Bible study, specifically how to avoid reading into the text. Nick advises putting aside preconceived notions and repenting for misunderstandings before studying. He emphasizes reading the Bible plainly first, without study notes, and slowing down to absorb the text. Nick shares that it takes him about 30 minutes per section to study deeply. He concludes by urging listeners to stop just reading the Bible and start studying it by focusing on small portions. The episode wraps with announcements for upcoming Good Friday and Easter services at Coeur Church, including details about family-friendly elements.

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A warm, insistent conversation about repentance, difficult healing and the call to resist spiritual complacency.

Nick Miller and Lauren Ryan turn Sunday's message into a candid talk about spiritual complacency and what it takes to resist it. Lauren brings the call to be "not normal" down to everyday choices, asking whether an action comes from service, selfishness or pride.

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You'll hear hard-won encouragement to repent, trust God, and stop treating faith like something you only do from a seat.

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