Call It What You Want: A CBS Sports Golazo Network Podcast · CBS Sports, USMNT, U.S. Soccer, MLS, World Cup, UCL, Americans Abroad

New Jersey showdown in the Copa Del Rey Final! | Sargent's big-money move | Musah's late push (Soccer 3/5)

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Phil says Antoine Griezmann is “closer to leaving now than he is to stay.”

1. Call It What You Want: A CBS Sports Golazo Network Podcast centers on Real Sociedad, Atletico Madrid, Josh Sargent, and U.S. player movement. 2. Jimmy Conrad hosts with Charlie Davies and Tony Meola, while La Liga expert Phil Kuchumides explains the Spanish club angles that matter. 3. The episode asks what Pellegrino Matarazzo has actually changed at Real Sociedad and whether that surge can carry into the Copa del Rey final. 4. Phil says Spanish radio in San Sebastian went from asking “who’s this guy?” to suggesting a statue for Matarazzo outside the stadium. 5. He credits Matarazzo with turning a “flat team” into a more vertical side that moves more, asks more players to come inside for the ball, and breaks into space. 6. Phil says the manager’s communication has been clear enough that players respect him and staff members accept his meticulous standards. 7. He also says Matarazzo has had some luck in the run, but one defeat against Real Madrid at the Bernabéu is the only real blemish. 8. The conversation notes that Real Sociedad reached the final with fans after 38 years without that experience in a cup final. 9. Phil adds that the Real Sociedad supporters have a chant set to a Bad Bunny tune that asks Orios Carson to “take me to Sevilla.” 10. He says the fans were singing it together with a megaphone after the match. 11. The hosts then ask whether Real Sociedad can also push into a European place if they win the trophy. 12. Phil says the Copa del Rey final is on April 18 and warns that teams sometimes decompress after lifting a title. 13. He still thinks Matarazzo would keep the group focused, especially with World Cup places and club form at stake. 14. The discussion shifts to Atletico Madrid, where Phil says Antoine Griezmann is closer to leaving than staying. 15. He notes Griezmann’s long-standing desire to play in the US, his status as Atletico Madrid’s all-time leading scorer, and the possibility of a move to Orlando. 16. Phil also says Atletico Madrid need the trophy more than Real Sociedad because they have not reached a final in 13 years and have been underperforming in the competition. 17. Jimmy, Charlie, and Tony describe Atletico Madrid as a team carrying Champions League and league fatigue because of a crowded schedule with games every three days. 18. The tone of the first half is conversational and tactical, with Phil giving long, detailed answers and the hosts pushing him on pressure, legacy, and scheduling. 19. The second half turns more debate-heavy around Toronto FC, Josh Sargent, and what a $22 million fee should produce. 20. Listeners who follow MLS spending, U.S. internationals, or La Liga cup races will get the most from this episode, while listeners avoiding transfer-market debates may skip it.

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