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The US Foreign Policy is a Bomb: Joe Biden/Elliot Abrams Foreign Policy Mantra (7/24/23)(Part 2/2)

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Russia asked for a written guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.
The show resumes its interview with Dave DeComp of Antiwar.com and stays centered on the effects of U.S. foreign policy south of the border. It begins with the argument that mass migration is tied to repression and unlivable conditions created by intervention and by the investment climate U.S. policy demands. Honduras after the 2009 coup is offered as one example of that pattern. The larger claim is that repeated intervention steadily lowers the quality of life for majority populations. The host says this is not meant as an anti-American statement, but as a way to describe reality more plainly. He also argues that public judgment gets distorted when the relevant history is left out. From there, the focus moves to Russia and Ukraine. The host says a series of developments increasingly compromised Russian national security, including missile sites in Poland and Romania and NATO-style interoperability in Ukraine. He contrasts those deployments with what would not be tolerated in Cuba or the Western Hemisphere. The discussion also brings in George Bush's "with us or against us" framing and the idea that governments unwilling to align with the U.S.-led West were marked for overthrow. Ukraine is described as having been drawn into NATO training and interoperability long before the 2022 war, especially after the 2014 U.S.-promoted coup. The host points to fighting in the east that killed some 14,000 predominantly Russian-speaking Ukrainians before the Russian special military operation began. He then widens the argument to say the U.S. and Western interests had been trying to balkanize Russia after the Soviet collapse while expanding eastward into the Euro-Asian market. The episode keeps circling back to the same point: key context is being left out of public debate. Near the end, the program shifts into a jazz story about Tony Bennett and Amy, which leads into a warm closing tribute to Bennett as a singer and gentleman.

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A forceful anti-intervention case linking Central America, Ukraine, and the human cost of official narratives.

The episode makes a clear case that U.S. policy in the hemisphere and in Eastern Europe has a human cost the public is rarely shown, and it gives that claim enough history to feel earned.

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If you want a blunt, antiwar take linking U.S. intervention in Latin America and Ukraine, press play.

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