Derek and Beth and Phantasm

·1 hr 46 min·5 clips

Derek and his wife Beth discuss her first-time reaction to the bizarre 1979 horror film 'Phantasm' after a 30-minute detour.

The episode begins with host Derek M. Koch introducing the show's focus on classic genre cinema and teasing a conversation about 'Phantasm' with his wife Beth, who is watching it for the first time. He notes their discussion initially strayed from the film for nearly 30 minutes. The episode includes regular segments: Mark Matsky's 'Beta Capsule Review' covers an episode of 'Ultraman Taro', and Kenny presents a 'Look at Famous Monsters of Filmland', detailing how the magazine began including R-rated horror like 'Alien' and 'Phantasm' in 1979. Derek reads an email from listener Kevin Slick, who questions what makes a film a 'classic', prompting Derek and Beth to debate era classifications from silent films to the 1980s. They frame 'Phantasm' as part of a transitional period in late-70s horror. Beth shares her reactions to specific scenes, such as a creepy portrait that moves and the infamous silver spheres. Derek provides background on the film's production, including director Don Coscarelli's early career and the low-budget practical effects. He discusses actor Reggie Bannister's role and mentions a GoFundMe for Bannister's medical care. The hosts compare 'Phantasm' to other horror franchises like 'Friday the 13th' and analyze its blend of supernatural and sci-fi elements. They touch on the film's music, its 1970s vibe, and its open-ended conclusion. Derek promotes upcoming local events like a screening of 'Last Man on Earth' and the 'Gathering of the Ghouls' convention. The episode concludes with reflections on supporting independent theaters and the evolving nature of horror cinema.

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A slow-burn Phantasm conversation that widens into classic-horror talk and a Rondo Hatton Classic Horror Awards detour.

Episode 70 opens with Macro by The Leviathans before moving into Derek M. Cook talking Phantasm with Beth, who is seeing it for the first time. The show takes almost 30 minutes to reach the movie, and that stretch gives the conversation a loose, unhurried shape.

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You get Phantasm, a first watch, and a long runway before the spheres show up.

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