Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

Max Donovan Is Here...

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Max Donovan, Lisa's son, joins the After Show for the first time to discuss his new fitness journey.

A swing starts the whole thing. Someone clocks how clean Riley looks, from the takeaway to the follow-through, and the room immediately starts gaming out what that might mean. Could he go pro, or at least play one of the tier two tours, if he wanted that life? Apparently, he does not. College golf sounds more real: a scholarship, a big program, maybe one of those schools people say with a little extra weight. Stanford is the reach. Clemson, Indiana, Michigan, and Notre Dame come up too, all as places that would fit if Riley is good enough. Then the conversation wanders into family. The host starts talking through what he admires about the guest's house, especially the early mix of sports, school, and steady pushing. It does not sound like advice. It sounds like a parent noticing another family's rhythm and seeing how much driving, patience, and encouragement sits behind it. Sports turn into the bigger point. The guest says a lot of the same friends are still around because they came up through camp and clinics together. That sticks with the host. Suddenly the clip is less about predicting Riley's golf future and more about the friendships and habits kids build when families keep showing up. The mom stories give it some warmth too: driving everywhere, living the tennis mom life, even carrying Riley's golf bag at one point. Nobody wraps it in a lesson. It stays loose, familiar, and a little teasing, the way an after-show can drift from one clean swing to parenting before the room catches up. The ad breaks around it make the excerpt feel jumpy, but the live conversation in the middle is a warm family and sports hang about ambition, support, and letting kids want what they want.

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A warm, easygoing conversation about golf, family support, college hopes, and friendships formed through sport.

Riley's golf goals give the conversation a clear center. He is not chasing a professional future, but he is serious about college golf and the possibility of a scholarship at a strong school.

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For a relaxed listen about college-golf dreams, sports-family routines, and heading back to Brown after break.

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