CLASSICS: Banterin' With Bart Cutino!

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Bart whispers to Sean, 'If those aren't the guys, those are squatches,' as he films mysterious bipeds moving 105 yards away.

In this episode of Bigfoot and Beyond, hosts Cliff Barackman and James 'Bobo' Fay interview longtime friend and researcher Bart Cutino. Cliff introduces Bart as a well-respected West Coast researcher known for his extensive field time and thermal imaging expertise. The episode focuses primarily on two of Bart's most significant Sasquatch encounters. The first is a 2010 incident in the Sierra Nevada, where Bart filmed distant bipedal movement through a thermal imager at 105 yards from a vantage point above camp. The footage itself was low-quality, but Bart organized a follow-up 10-day investigation with about a dozen people, half of them law enforcement, led by Ranger Robert Leiterman. This investigation involved detailed site recreations, measurements, and analysis that concluded the subjects were likely Sasquatches estimated at six-and-a-half to seven feet tall. Bart narrates the tense night of filming, including whispering to his inexperienced companion Sean, trying different vantage points, and later discovering a thrown rock. The second major story is Bart's 2007 thermal sighting at Bumping Lake in Washington. He describes seeing a glowing, massive subject at about 32 yards that reacted fearfully when he snapped his fingers. He details its proportions, movement, and how seeing a friend, Paul Graves, later at the same spot helped him gauge its immense size. Bart explains how this experience shaped his research philosophy, emphasizing the importance of finding vantage points and using thermal technology persistently. The conversation also touches on other anecdotes, like a possible sighting on the Smith River and frustrating near-misses due to older technology. Bart and the hosts discuss the skepticism surrounding such evidence, the current state of Bigfoot research, and the hope that affordable thermal imagers will lead to definitive proof. Bart shares a personal motivation: he wants the mystery solved before his parents pass away. The episode concludes with a brief mention of Monterey Bay sea serpent stories from Bart's fisherman grandfathers.

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