Big Technology Podcast · Alex Kantrowitz

AI’s Unpopularity + Competing With ChatGPT — With Olivia Moore

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Moore says she gave OpenClaw a Twitter account and told it to “grow in whatever means necessary.”

1. Big Technology Podcast centers on AI’s unpopularity and competing with ChatGPT. 2. Host Alex Kantrowitz speaks with Olivia Moore, Andreessen Horowitz’s AI partner, because she invests in AI applications. 3. The episode asks whether startups can compete with big AI chatbots as models get more capable. 4. Moore cites an NBC News poll showing 57% of voters think AI risks outweigh the benefits. 5. Moore points to media stories about AI using water and to concern about creative-field jobs. 6. Moore says people in the United States are still seeing ChatGPT help them with everyday tasks. 7. Kantrowitz notes 900 million ChatGPT users while public sentiment remains negative. 8. They discuss lab leaders such as Dario at Anthropic and Mustafa Suleiman at Microsoft warning about white-collar displacement. 9. Moore says AI use is already expanding the number of tasks people can do with software. 10. The discussion includes a Wharton study and a Citadel example about AI adoption not reducing hiring. 11. Moore says the biggest AI users and average users differ by roughly eight or nine times in utilization. 12. She compares early AI adoption to early internet adoption for companies. 13. Moore says every tech company will be an AI company and every AI company will be an agent company. 14. She argues many AI businesses will still be worth hundreds of billions or trillions of dollars. 15. Moore says horizontal products like AI email, AI calendar, and AI docs are less compelling to her as investments. 16. She gives ElevenLabs as an example of a company with a head start that the labs may not bother to chase. 17. The episode spends time on Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and their different consumer directions. 18. Moore says ChatGPT still leads web usage by about 2.5 to 3 times over Gemini and about 30 times over Claude. 19. The interview style is direct, analytical, and data-heavy, with Kantrowitz pressing on claims and examples. 20. Listeners interested in AI products, startup competition, and model strategy will get the most from it. 21. Listeners looking for a short product news update will probably skip it.

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A sharp check on whether startups can still compete as the chatbot layer gets crowded.

Big Technology Podcast keeps the focus on a straightforward question under the chatbot hype: whether startups still have room to compete as the big AI chatbots keep getting better.

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